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post #21 of 52
6/30/12 at 10:49pm
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considering your budget i would consider the I3 2100 for your cpu with a decent z77 or z68 mobo
edit: also what else will you be using your computer for? will it be primarily for games, or will you be mixing and editing movies, music etc etc
[example]
50%games
20% music editing
30% web surfing

Probably around 40% games, (Not many high end games though, mostly casual indie games, and then skyrim),
Large photo editing in photoshop 20%
40% web surfing, but able to multitask, with several other programs such as itunes, steam, photoshop, also running without much slowdown.

@jvkua , thanks for the list, the case actually looks nice in my opinion, although i feel as if im reading braile when i look at the specs. Any other word on this list vs langer1972's list?
Edited by seodah - 6/30/12 at 10:51pm
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post #22 of 52
6/30/12 at 10:50pm
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whats more important to start with overall speed or storage capacity?

at the moment speed would be more important, i have a 500gb external hard drive which is able to keep most of my media for now

EDIT: After reading what you said about upgrading hard drive, it would be best to still have a decent starting hard drive, 500gb-1tb, which is really all I need when adding in the external hard drive i already have
Edited by seodah - 6/30/12 at 11:01pm
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post #23 of 52
6/30/12 at 10:55pm
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Probably around 40% games, (Not many high end games though, mostly casual indie games, and then skyrim),
Large photo editing in photoshop 20%
40% web surfing, but able to multitask, with several other programs such as itunes, steam, photoshop, also running without much slowdown.
@jvkua , thanks for the list, the case actually looks nice in my opinion, although i feel as if im reading braile when i look at the specs. Any other word on this list vs langer1972's list?

Well, the one I posted is using Ivy Bridge with a Z77 board. Though the 3570k runs somewhat hotter than the 2500k, it's faster and it lets you use the PCIe 3.0 on the board in the future. Z77 vs Z68, the Z77 has native USB3.

The 560ti I placed is also faster than the 550ti he posted. The one I placed has 1TB vs 500gb of HDD space and mine only has a 500w 80+ PSU compared to the 650w 80+ silver he posted
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post #24 of 52
6/30/12 at 11:00pm
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at the moment speed would be more important, i have a 500gb external hard drive which is able to keep most of my media for now

i edited that spazy post but noted. ill post some links soon
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post #25 of 52
6/30/12 at 11:08pm
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Well, the one I posted is using Ivy Bridge with a Z77 board. Though the 3570k runs somewhat hotter than the 2500k, it's faster and it lets you use the PCIe 3.0 on the board in the future. Z77 vs Z68, the Z77 has native USB3.
The 560ti I placed is also faster than the 550ti he posted. The one I placed has 1TB vs 500gb of HDD space and mine only has a 500w 80+ PSU compared to the 650w 80+ silver he posted

I see, I am leaning towards more of your parts, mostly just browing case designs now, il see what microfister has to suggest if there are some ways to cut back and save for later aswell.
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6/30/12 at 11:12pm
Hey there, saw the thread thought I'd pop in and just throw up a post I put on another budget gaming builders thread.

My final revision of best budget gaming computer builds for June 30th.

Case: Rosewill challanger: 40$ (promo code: EMCNDHA27)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
HDD: HGST Deckstar 500gb: 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145531&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4003003&SID=14a7vps6ycls3
Monitor: Acer G215 21.5" 1080p: 108$ (promo code: EMCNDHA33)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009306
GPU: Galaxy 560ti: 175$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162074
Power supply: Corsair Builder 500w: 30$ (promo code: EMCNDHD77)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
Memory: Gskill ares 8gb: 41.40$ (promo code: EMCNDHA42)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544

AMD build:
AMD FX 4100+ ASROCK 970 EXTREME3: 175$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.956183

Intel builds:
Intel build 1: Intel i5 3570k+ BIOSTAR z77: 315$ (promo code: EMCNDHB34)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138355
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
Intel build 2: Intel i5 3450+ BIOSTAR z77: 278$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.975101

Build totals:
AMD: 679.35$ -45$(mail in rebates)= 634$
Intel i5 3570k: 824.35$ -55$(mail in rebates)= 769$
Intel i5 3450: 787.35$- 55$(mail in rebates)= 732$

Additional Items:
CPU cooler: CM Hyper 212: 20$(30-10$ mail in rebate)(this should come in handy with the AMD 4100 and the i5 3570k to help overclock)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
DVD Burner: Liteon DVD burner: 18$ (who uses these anymore?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
Boot/ Intel smart response SSD: OCZ vertex 3 60gb: 55$ (70-15$ mail in rebate)(Intel smart response is amazing in my opinion)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227737

Money saving options:
GPU: sapphire 6850: 120$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&Tpk=sapphire%206850
Memory: Crucial ballistix 4gb: 22.50$ (promo code: EMCNDHA42)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148488
Case: CM Elite 430: 30$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227

Ideally I'd just go with my intel 3570k build w/ ocz bootdrive+hyper 212
What I'd suggest to you if you wanted to maximise your budget...(will update)
Edited by thehidecheck - 6/30/12 at 11:17pm
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post #27 of 52
6/30/12 at 11:12pm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151255 ODD non OEM so you dont need cables

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146085 case(that you had approved of, personal preference really)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150608 Graphics Card, new gen, capable of reasonable graphics level, and easily upgraded to an additional card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088 excellent PSU with capacity for a CPU and GPU upgrade(xfire)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220557 8gb dual channel memory (patriot still honors their lifetime warranty i believe)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 I3 2120(easily upgraded to a 2500k) very adequate for gaming and multitasking with a broad range of options on its platform

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265R open box MOBO very good brand, and should still carry warrnaty from previous owner, asrock has similar warranty to asus(if item is returned and resold, then item maintains original warranty minus time from inital sale) does not support the ssd caching or the ivy bridge CPUs but your performance will not suffer much at all and your wallet will thank you

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Microsoft Home Premium, the standard OS for OCN gaming thumb.gif
which if you already have a copy of on a laptop thats dead you can always use the cd key and get it for free wink.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 And last but not least(by a long shot) a SSD, fast reliable, great customer service and about $30 cheaper than when i got them.

all coming to $900.91

will play games on med-high, quite capable of surfing the web and multitasking and everything is upgradable.

CPU upgrade 2500k or 2600K/2700K $180-320

GPU upgrade 7850 or 7870 $250-350

HDD upgrade <$90 for a teribyte or another SSD

Mem upgrade<$40-50
Edited by microfister - 6/30/12 at 11:14pm
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6x Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSD 480GB raid0 8x Seagate Constellation ES 3TB 7200 RPM HDD ra... dual Lite On 12x BD-R 2x EK Supreme HF 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
4x EK 8970 WB Acetel  3x EK Cool Stream Rad XT 360 2x EK D5 Dual Top Single Loop Pump Windows 7 Ultimate 
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post #28 of 52
6/30/12 at 11:19pm
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/bag8
Then the Corsair PSU here also had a -$10 promo code which I can't remember...
The Case here is actually just a placeholder since it's more of personal preferences in looks.
O hey, nice build as ussual. Again, very similar to mine XD. I love your business sense.
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post #29 of 52
6/30/12 at 11:29pm
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Wow absolutely love the amount of help I've had from you guys.

@microfister, your links look great, Ill prob stick to most of your suggestions, and then the 1tb hard drive jvkua had suggested, only being a bit over the 900 mark which isnt a problem.

EDIT: For now I'll continue looking at various cases, although is there any size or # of bays i need to keep in mind when browsing?
Edited by seodah - 6/30/12 at 11:35pm
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post #30 of 52
6/30/12 at 11:34pm
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151255 ODD non OEM so you dont need cables
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146085 case(that you had approved of, personal preference really)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150608 Graphics Card, new gen, capable of reasonable graphics level, and easily upgraded to an additional card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088 excellent PSU with capacity for a CPU and GPU upgrade(xfire)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220557 8gb dual channel memory (patriot still honors their lifetime warranty i believe)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 I3 2120(easily upgraded to a 2500k) very adequate for gaming and multitasking with a broad range of options on its platform
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265R open box MOBO very good brand, and should still carry warrnaty from previous owner, asrock has similar warranty to asus(if item is returned and resold, then item maintains original warranty minus time from inital sale) does not support the ssd caching or the ivy bridge CPUs but your performance will not suffer much at all and your wallet will thank you
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Microsoft Home Premium, the standard OS for OCN gaming thumb.gif
which if you already have a copy of on a laptop thats dead you can always use the cd key and get it for free wink.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 And last but not least(by a long shot) a SSD, fast reliable, great customer service and about $30 cheaper than when i got them.
all coming to $900.91
will play games on med-high, quite capable of surfing the web and multitasking and everything is upgradable.
CPU upgrade 2500k or 2600K/2700K $180-320
GPU upgrade 7850 or 7870 $250-350
HDD upgrade <$90 for a teribyte or another SSD
Mem upgrade<$40-50
Gonna get my thoughts out on this before I do a maximise budget build...
Optical: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289 saves a dollar
Case: Very good, high end case, aesthetics wise very pleasing, however, temps will be similar to the challanger(same stock fan config) i posted in my build but for only 40$, if you plan to add fans, keep it
Graphics card: same card, same price, no mail in rebate http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617 hell, you might even be able to fool xfx and get the rebate on your card on this one and save even more
PSU: links broken, mines a steal at 30 bucks and will power everything below a 680 and has 2 6+2 pins
Memory: like your's if you plan to stay at 1333mhz, if you want it at 1600mhz heres the link(id suggest this) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220558 BOTH ARE APPLICABLE FOR THIS COUPON, USE ITEMCNDHA42
CPU: get yourself a 3570k, they are on sale(as per my build)
MOBO: the one time i ordered open box ON AN ASUS, i got stiffed. Mobo's have alot of small complications that get missed where other open box products dont. PLZ go with the BIOSTAR z77 i suggested
OS: yep
SSD: I assume thats for boot/intel smart response, buy it if you must, i've had no problems with sandforce controllers (such ones could be found in my vertex 3 60gb)
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