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post #71 of 77
7/4/12 at 10:13pm
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What are they doing?
Increase yearly inspections. I remember in 2011 they announced they have increased inspections from around ~150 to ~270, and they joined the Fair Labor Association (FLA) and got them doing independent inspections of the facilities. And according to Tim they're working with Foxconn to improve the situation over there. This article from Tom's pretty much sums up the latter: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-tim-cook-foxconn-worker-factory,15157.html

Increase yearly inspections? Increase *yearly* inspections. How are they going to increase yearly inspections, once a year?
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7/4/12 at 10:21pm
I don't blame Apple..I used to but honestly there just being smart ...taking advantage of what's open to take advantage of! I'd rather it happen now while I'm broke and cant buy the crap anyways then when I'm a billionaire .tongue.gif

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post #73 of 77
7/4/12 at 10:50pm
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Increase yearly inspections? Increase *yearly* inspections. How are they going to increase yearly inspections, once a year?
And the point of this post would be...? It's clear what was meant.
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post #74 of 77
7/5/12 at 6:58am
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Increasing inspections doesn't mean things have been improved.
The inspections expose any wrong doings and allow them to be corrected. The more inspections, the better, and the FLA did its independent inspection and found many problems and they've reported that things have improved a lot.
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Everyone knows you stick to the script when the big wigs come by.
I don't entirely know what you mean, but I don't stick to "any script".
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I want to see evidence of actual improvement in conditions.
Then look up the FLA's report.
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I don't see Apple pushing them to give the people better living quarters, for example (we read that's what Apple allegedly pushed for, but if that were true why have we not seen PR material showing this? After all, Apple is all PR and marketing.).

Better hours are fantastic, but if you still go home to a crap hole then your life isn't much better. Even if Apple did improve things notably, it wouldn't change the evil things they do at home so my view of them wouldn't change, but it would take one Apple-marked arrow from my quiver.

Here's the original article: link. It's a good read.

In short: Apple's doing quite a bit to improve things over there.
Yeah, that doesn't tell me anything. That tells me plans.
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7/5/12 at 8:24am
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Increase yearly inspections? Increase *yearly* inspections. How are they going to increase yearly inspections, once a year?

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Yeah, that doesn't tell me anything. That tells me plans.

You both are being pedantic for no reason.

Domino,

Increased amount of inceptions per year.

Stargate,

A plan will tell you everything, especially one that has been laid out in more detail than I've ever seen from a corporation.

As I stated earlier, foxconn did not need to be brought into the conversation. The majority of their work supports the electronics industry and apple - one account out of many - has improved working conditions for all.

Anecdotal, from what I've heard, people are still lining up blocks long to try to get a job there - so take it or leave it - and stop pestering your community members.
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post #76 of 77
7/5/12 at 3:34pm
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The patent system is incompatible with modern technology, though, and should be updated.

This pretty much sums up everything that needs to be said about this ridiculous patent nonsense spearheaded by Apple.

That judge's statement about swipe to unlock being an obvious development in the smartphone world hopefully shuts them up for a while.
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post #77 of 77
7/5/12 at 5:08pm
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Yeah, that doesn't tell me anything. That tells me plans.
As Nocturin said plans tell you what's going to happen and the FLA is monitoring those plans and what's happening at the facilities (i.e how it's going).

I don't think I've heard of Apple publishing a report on what it's corrected from its inspections, but here's something regarding the FLA:
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"Many of Foxconn’s health and safety problems, including blocked exits, lack of or faulty personal protective equipment and missing permits, were immediately corrected during the course of the investigation," the FLA states. It also found that "one year after the Chengdu explosion, Foxconn had improved operating procedures, measurement, and documentation to reduce risks related to aluminum dust where Apple products are made."

Read more: http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/03/29/promises.shorter.hours.better.health.and.safety/#ixzz1znQCsW85
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