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post #1 of 25
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I've finally decided to make switch from this awful Logitech G19 to a proper keyboard but I'm having trouble with a few bits.

Firstly is the switch type, from my understanding (after reading the mechanical keyboard guide) is that Blacks and Reds are similar to standard membrane boards in that the key must be bottomed out to register and that Reds are lighter than Blacks. Also AFAIK Blues and Browns don't have to be pressed all the way down and Blues are typing orientated. My issue is that as I'll be doing a lot of gaming and normal typing, you could make the arguments for Blacks, Reds or Browns being the best for me (arguably also Blues at a stretch). Also because I live in the UK AFAIK there aren't any shops near me that are specialised enough to carry different switch boards to try out, so when it comes to choosing the switch, I'm basically arbitrarily picking. Could anyone give me some insight into some of the switches? I know Blacks are heavy but are they comparably heavy to membrane keys?

My next question is a bit of a controversial one, are Filco and Ducky generally the same build quality? I hear both are excellent but I'm intruiged if one is intrinsically better.

Another question I have is are the keycaps for mechanical boards fairly universal? I realise there are different type of switches than Cherry but would I for example be able to buy a keycap set from WASD and use them on a Filco or Ducky board?

My last request is for some recommendations of keyboards if possible, at the moment I'm fairly stuck between Blacks, Browns and Reds but I'd like a board with media keys if possible, preferably Filco or Ducky (I've heard bad things about some boards by Razer) but I am open to other brands. Backlighting is not neccessary (I have the G19 and honestly the backlighting options are cool, but I never really play in the dark.

Any answers to any of these questions would be appreciated as I'm stepping into the unknown here. biggrin.gif

Cheers!
post #2 of 25
I'm in the same boat as you, using a G11, and I really want to change to mechanical.

I do typing a lot, but also a lot of gaming, and I've come to the conclusion that brown is the way to go, you get the tactile feel, without having to bottom out the key's, but they arent too stiff.

I've also narrowed my search down to filco and ducky, and I think I'm going to go with ducky, mainly cause its backlit, but I hear people swear by both companies, so either way you go, your money is well spent.
post #3 of 25
Brown is probably the best type of switch for new mechanical users. It's great for both typing and games. I would NOT go with a black or a red if you game and type. I know some people use blues for both typing and gaming, but many don't like them for gaming.

http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11421
http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11538
http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11526

Duckys are very popular, i've used around 3 mechanicals and I prefer the ducky's with brown switches. These are almost always out of stock, looks like they have 5 of the blue LED ones in (probably will sell fast). TigerImports is probably the best place to grab these keyboards, anywhere else and you'll pay more usually.

Almost all mechanical keyboards, including duckys, have media keys. You just use the function key with F1 through F12. Duckys can also be switched between PS/2 and USB with an adapter, many mechanical keyboards won't work if you do this. There are newer motherboards that don't have PS/2 on them (ASUS boards, etc), so if you buy a brand that locks into PS/2 you may find yourself in a bad situation come upgrade time.
Edited by Murlocke - 7/1/12 at 5:28pm
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post #4 of 25
I would also recommend brown switch since you will not have a problem double tapping and will have a decent feedback when typing. I use clear switches they are like brown switches but require more force to actuate since i am a heavy typer. If you do not require the numpad then get a TKL or Tenkeyless keybaord which is more ergonomic position of keyboard and mouse together.
some models to look at

COOLER MASTER CM STORM QUICKFIRE PRO MECHANICAL GAMING KEYBOARD CHERRY MX BROWN
http://www.ebay.com/itm/COOLER-MASTER-CM-STORM-QUICKFIRE-PRO-MECHANICAL-GAMING-KEYBOARD-CHERRY-MX-BROWN-/350578237033?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item51a0175e69

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Filco Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, USA Keyboard FKBN87M/EB2 (mx brown)
http://www.amazon.com/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tenkeyless-FKBN87M-EB2/dp/B004WOF7QM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341188741&sr=8-1&keywords=filco+brown

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post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by Paradigm84 View Post

Also because I live in the UK AFAIK there aren't any shops near me that are specialised enough to carry different switch boards to try out, so when it comes to choosing the switch, I'm basically arbitrarily picking..

(I've heard bad things about some boards by Razer)
Cheers!

I had the same problem as I'm in the UK too. I popped into my closest pc world though and they actually have a razer black widow backlit on display, in it's box. But the box has conveniently got the arrow keys exposed (intentional by razer) so I could tap those keys and see what it feels like, even though I have no intention of buying a black widow. It has cherry blue switches, the 'clicky' sounding ones. See if your local pc world has one to try out, at least you'll get some idea of what a mechanical feels like, and with blue switches.
    
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post #6 of 25
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Ok Brown switches it will be, and tenkeyless would make sense, I never use the number pad.

Now just to decide on whether LED backlight is worth it and if I should go with Filco or Ducky.

Thanks everyone!

@Roman5 - I've tried a mechanical board before, I believe it was the Steelseries 6GV2, but I can't remember what switches it had and there wasn't a selection of others to try for comparison.
post #7 of 25
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Originally Posted by Paradigm84 View Post

Ok Brown switches it will be, and tenkeyless would make sense, I never use the number pad.
Now just to decide on whether LED backlight is worth it and if I should go with Filco or Ducky.
Thanks everyone!
@Roman5 - I've tried a mechanical board before, I believe it was the Steelseries 6GV2, but I can't remember what switches it had and there wasn't a selection of others to try for comparison.

LED is for noobs biggrin.gif everyone is going NINJA 18 keys now

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or like me with complete blanks thumb.gif

Keyboard sex tongue.gif
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post #8 of 25
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I will end up going for blanks eventually when I get better at typing. tongue.gif

Until then I'm tempted by the Filco Camo tenkeyless, I'm not fond of the camo as it feels a bit childish but I like the contrast of the keys to case.

At the moment it's between the Ducky Shine White LED, Ducky Tenkeyless or Filco Majestouch-2 Tenkeyless (Standard or Camo) [All with Browns]

Opinions?
post #9 of 25
You narrowed it down to Personal choice since the quality is about the same and you know the switch you want. I dont like the led backlight since its pointless, a noob factor you can say, once you go to blank keycaps you will not be looking down anyways, you shouldn't be looking down now since you're on OCN. biggrin.gif
post #10 of 25
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I only really look down occasionally, but I'm thinking I could always buy an LED backlit board and when I don't need it anymore just buy some cool blank keycaps.

Thanks for the help. smile.gif
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