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post #41 of 136
7/2/12 at 6:57pm
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EDIT: Wait, if we're supposed to ignore price and performance, then how does one even determine which platforms are supposed to compete?
I added performance by accident...meant only price.
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You really think they WANTED to drop their "high end" 8150 by $70? They HAD to in order to compete. Just look at their processor prices, it's a mess.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113005
Then you have this...
Edited by Seronx - 7/2/12 at 7:00pm
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7/2/12 at 7:02pm
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Intel wouldn't cost more either if it had more competition.

Just because Intel owners won't recognize AMD as competition doesn't mean that it isn't. The only thing that this really proves is that for less money I can play quite a few games for a lot less that it would cost me to go Intel.
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post #43 of 136
7/2/12 at 7:05pm
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Just because Intel owners won't recognize AMD as competition doesn't mean that it isn't. The only thing that this really proves is that for less money I can play quite a few games for a lot less that it would cost me to go Intel.

In terms of processor, it is priced according to its performance. Back in the beginning of x64 era, AMD priced their processor higher than Intel counterpart.

It is what it is, Intel has the performance crown, so Intel priced it higher.
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7/2/12 at 7:06pm
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In terms of processor, it is priced according to its performance. Back in the beginning of x64 era, AMD priced their processor higher than Intel counterpart.
It is what it is, Intel has the performance crown, so Intel priced it higher.

But look at all the game benchmarks. Higher prices get you lower performance in games. That makes sense to me:rolleyes:
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post #45 of 136
7/2/12 at 7:08pm
good performance, I just wish they tested gaming with some discrete graphics and power consumption,
also ivy bridge Core i3 is probably going to be released soon (before desktop trinity), higher IPC and higher clock for the same price (I think) compared to the 2100,
but obviously HD2500 and HD4000 can't compete with the A10 graphics,
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post #46 of 136
7/2/12 at 7:08pm
sadly the exact intel counter of amd isnt exact!in fact i suspect they make sure we cant exactly pin one to the other as counter and let reviewer decide!

best bet!ignore counter!on average cpu doesnt have a lot of say in the mather for gamer!and everybody know if your application is processor intensive go intel!
as far as i know average user wont max say a fx 8150!or a fx 4100!something will prevent them first ,like their web connection,their ssd,their pcie!etc etc etc
as for hd4000 not competing with amd apu?till intel finally release the official hd4000 driver nobody will know,i dont know why it take them so long to finish the thing!everybody expect hd4000 not to be able to keep up with trinity,but seeing how long after lunch intel is taking!i aint so sure anymore!intel look dead serious about beating the hell out of amd in the apu industry!and i cant blame intel.they have other fish to fry soon way bigger on the mobile sector then amd(arm)intel has to win vs amd trinity on all front!or they ll face arm with doubt!
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post #47 of 136
7/2/12 at 7:09pm
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But look at all the game benchmarks. Higher prices get you lower performance in games. That makes sense to me:rolleyes:

When you use integrated GPU for gaming yes. For workstation/computation/encoding/emulation purpose, no.

Overall Intel is faster. If you truly care about gaming SB Pentium is cheaper yet retains 95% of the gaming performance from i3-2100.
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post #48 of 136
7/2/12 at 7:10pm
drbaltazar, I know you use a translator, but I really haven't a clue what you just said...

Anyway, aren't a good amount of productivity programs multi-threaded, therefore making the A10 better than the i3 in that case? I mean, the only productivity program that the i3 beat the A10 in was Premiere Pro. (the i3 also won in iTunes if you care)
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7/2/12 at 7:20pm
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7/2/12 at 7:32pm
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When you use integrated GPU for gaming yes. For workstation/computation/encoding/emulation purpose, no.
Overall Intel is faster. If you truly care about gaming SB Pentium is cheaper yet retains 95% of the gaming performance from i3-2100.

I don't think you can say overall. They traded blows for the most part and walked Intel in gaming. I don't think that AMD claimed this was a workstation CPU so tha'ts not a fair comparison.
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