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post #21 of 52
7/5/12 at 7:51pm
Personally I use only Dragonskin. I have used eraser and LET but find Dragonskin so easy it appeals to my inner lazy self. Not only that it peels off without any residue and haven't ruined anything in removal of it yet (pulling off components/resistors/caps, etc). I have found that some sockets (FM1/AM2/AM3, etc) and the PCIe/RAM slots can be tough to get it all from underneath, so I eraser or LET the very edge of the socket/slot (the edge between the board and slot/socket) just to keep the Dragonskin from flowing under the socket. Of course only if I fear that I might have RMA the board or something, if its an older board I just pour away. It sets up in half hour or so and your are good to go. For added insurance I usually eraser or cut a foam/neoprene gasket for around the chip, filling the pockets where air or moisture could reside.

Now again my LN2 experience is somewhat limited but I've never had trouble under DICE or phase and it can stay on for air cooling. It all peels off in under a minute and there is no trace at all of it being there.
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7/5/12 at 7:51pm
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good advice guys i think im gonna do that LET stuff on my board till i sell it sounds liek its easy enough to work with so
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post #23 of 52
7/5/12 at 7:56pm
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Personally I use only Dragonskin. I have used eraser and LET but find Dragonskin so easy it appeals to my inner lazy self. Not only that it peels off without any residue and haven't ruined anything in removal of it yet (pulling off components/resistors/caps, etc). I have found that some sockets (FM1/AM2/AM3, etc) and the PCIe/RAM slots can be tough to get it all from underneath, so I eraser or LET the very edge of the socket/slot (the edge between the board and slot/socket) just to keep the Dragonskin from flowing under the socket. Of course only if I fear that I might have RMA the board or something, if its an older board I just pour away. It sets up in half hour or so and your are good to go. For added insurance I usually eraser or cut a foam/neoprene gasket for around the chip, filling the pockets where air or moisture could reside.
Now again my LN2 experience is somewhat limited but I've never had trouble under DICE or phase and it can stay on for air cooling. It all peels off in under a minute and there is no trace at all of it being there.

Using intel stuff I never had a problem with dragon skin, but the intel stuff had coldbugs. First time using dragon skin with a full pot on AMD I discovered after a couple hours when dismounting the pot the skin was all cracked apart, the LET does hold up better with more extreme temps.
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post #24 of 52
7/6/12 at 4:00am
I had wondered about this but haven't found any evidence of it when going as cold as -90. My REX board has been under Cascade at least 30 times and there hasn't been this issue. So the colder temps of the LN2 must do it. Did you insulate above the dragonskin? For AMD I generally use a gasket cut from Frost King or Neoprene, I wonder if this helps at all. There wasn't any cracking on the board I did at TO but that was a pretty limited run.
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7/6/12 at 12:55pm
I was mostly using the 980x/990x around the time the dragon skin was discovered here, wasn't getting any colder than -125° or so & never saw any cracking. It was only after getting my first AMD 955be I had issues with the skin, covered the board as usual, bit of eraser around the cpu & an armaflex gasket. It was probably frozen for 3 or 4 hours with full pot, didn't have any problems & the board lived, but the skin was cracked pretty badly all around the socket. I should have taken a pic...
Still fine on my x58 & sandy boards that don't get full cold, but i try to stick to LET with ivy & AMD boards now. Or vaseline for fast coverage I guess, almost funny how my board was OK with the 2 minute insulating job in TO where other boards more slowly & carefully prepped were dropping like dominoes.
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7/6/12 at 2:29pm
@OP, I just thought of it myself, but a dewar/Thermos, to fill your pot biggrin.gif
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post #27 of 52
7/7/12 at 7:54pm
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@OP, I just thought of it myself, but a dewar/Thermos, to fill your pot biggrin.gif

LoL. Good point tongue.gif Unless the op is just looking at DICE for the time being.

The one thing I will say based on my experience this weekend, is that DICE will only keep me satisfied for so long especially as it's a bummer if/when you run out. frown.gif
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7/8/12 at 8:18am
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LoL. Good point tongue.gif Unless the op is just looking at DICE for the time being.
The one thing I will say based on my experience this weekend, is that DICE will only keep me satisfied for so long especially as it's a bummer if/when you run out. frown.gif

 

It's true, once you use DICE for a bit you feel the need to push it further and use LN2.  DICE is like a gateway drug tongue.gif

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post #29 of 52
7/8/12 at 10:49pm
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It's true, once you use DICE for a bit you feel the need to push it further and use LN2.  DICE is like a gateway drug tongue.gif

indeed it is biggrin.gif
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post #30 of 52
7/9/12 at 9:33am
I personally like Dragon Skin but I put it on very thick. Never had a problem with it cracking with a full pot but I have heard of others besides FTW say that it cracked on them as well.
Start with DICE but know going in that you will be upgrading in the future wink.gif
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