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What I stare at all day when I'm not burning up the streets:
2 Dell 24" LCD
1 Dell 21.5" LED (rigged up to a Dell D620)
2 Latitude D620

3 D620s, one of them only runs in safe mode, still can't figure out why, the one hooked up to my 21.5" has a broken screen.


Whats under the hood:
-Sabertooth Z77
-8gb of Corsairs Vengeance Ram @1600mhz
-i5 3570K @3.4
-Kingwin 850w PSU Maximum Power
-1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 32mb cache HDD
-64gb Kingston SSDNow SSD
-nVidia GTX 280 (will upgrade later)

Case:
NZXT Guardian 921 RB

Cooling:
-Stock CPU cooler
-3 NZXT fans
-1 Cooler Master fan
-Pro's AfroEngineered GPU Cooler


Climate/Region:
-Farmington Michigan
-Down in my man cave it's about 69F
-Dehumidifier set at 45%, the man cave itself is about 18%




What I will be buying down the road:

Cooling:
Corsairs H100

Graphics:
Asus GTX 680 x1(1 year later I will buy another if needed to run games at max)

CPU:
Unless there is something better than the 3570K that is NOT HyperThreading then I'll be keeping this unless the 3770K shows a big improvement in gaming compared to the 3570K

RAM:
16gb Corsair Dominator @2866mhz if possible

Case:
Dunno yet, hopefully something catches my eye soon

Storage:
Another SSD larger than 128gb
If my 1tb fills up, I'll buy another of the exact same model, or I'll buy 2tb and transfer the files






I would greatly appreciate it if you guys shared your knowledge on liquid cooling, I can't find anything that's actually "better" than the H100







Thanks for reading and post below what you think!
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Originally Posted by ProChargedLS2 View Post

I would greatly appreciate it if you guys shared your knowledge on liquid cooling, I can't find anything that's actually "better" than the H100
for a CLC that is a pretty good choice, but at that price point (about $120 after shipping) you could easily step up to an entry grade custom XSPC kit.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=59_202_972&zenid=159cfca263dd25428b9b0a6551f38426

look into the Rasa kits, they range from $140-$300 but if you are just putting the CPU under water some of the lower end kits will do just fine.

the 850w PSU is overkill but in a good way. You wont have to worry about that for a while.

The 680s are really overrated, a 670 is just as good when OC'd (maybe 5-10% less) but for a $100 less too. If you have time wait until big Kepler comes out, we should see some major improvements then. You wont need to SLI 680s to run max settings, they can handle it solo right now. SLI will just let you run games at like 120fps lol

And that future 16GB ram is wayyy overkill unless you plan on folding. 2866mhz is just... awesomely overkill. Will destroy your budget tho. Look into 16GB of 1600, maybe even 1866 if you want to. Im running a simple 16GB @ 1600 CL9 right now and that should get me through for a few years.

oh and have to love the AfroEngineering thumb.gif
Edited by xRehab - 7/4/12 at 4:08pm
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for a CLC that is a pretty good choice, but at that price point (about $120 after shipping) you could easily step up to an entry grade custom XSPC kit.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=59_202_972&zenid=159cfca263dd25428b9b0a6551f38426
look into the Rasa kits, they range from $140-$300 but if you are just putting the CPU under water some of the lower end kits will do just fine.
oh and have to love the AfroEngineering thumb.gif

That's amazing! THANKS!!! I'll buy one of those instead lol. And normally I post pictures but my GPU is in my server because something went wrong on the MB, I get a new one in 2 weeks... Takes time to process my refund.

I'll take a pic of just the GPU when I get the chance.
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That's amazing! THANKS!!! I'll buy one of those instead lol. And normally I post pictures but my GPU is in my server because something went wrong on the MB, I get a new one in 2 weeks... Takes time to process my refund.
I'll take a pic of just the GPU when I get the chance.
Your very welcome man, I was in your same boat only a month or two ago when gearing up for my own build. Originally looked at an H100, then the Rasa kits... and now I just spent like $400 on a complete custom loop haha, somehow I get carried away like that. Just remember that the H100 is a CLOSED LOOP COOLER and the Rasa kits are actually true water loop kits. You assemble the whole thing yourself; pump, res and hoses. I'm sure you know that but I just wanted to make it clear.
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Your very welcome man, I was in your same boat only a month or two ago when gearing up for my own build. Originally looked at an H100, then the Rasa kits... and now I just spent like $400 on a complete custom loop haha, somehow I get carried away like that. Just remember that the H100 is a CLOSED LOOP COOLER and the Rasa kits are actually true water loop kits. You assemble the whole thing yourself; pump, res and hoses. I'm sure you know that but I just wanted to make it clear.

If you want it right you gotta get it done yourself! I learned that the hard way on my car.

I won't spend more than 160 on a water cooler, that should be enough for sure.
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If you want it right you gotta get it done yourself! I learned that the hard way on my car.
I won't spend more than 160 on a water cooler, that should be enough for sure.
If that is the case, consider bumping that up to $170 and getting the RX240 kit over one of the RS kits. the RX's have a lower FPI so you can use lower RPM fans to achieve the same if not better cooling then the RS kits with a lot less noise.

Though with that thought processes why not just up it to the EX kits for a bit more... and then why not just make a custom loop... and now you see how I got from an h100 to a $400 custom loop lol.

But in all seriousness look into the RX240s, they are very solid. and if you want more opinions just hit up the WC subforum here and see what everyone is suggesting. Make a thread, give them a budget, and they will come up with the best solution for you.
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If that is the case, consider bumping that up to $170 and getting the RX240 kit over one of the RS kits. the RX's have a lower FPI so you can use lower RPM fans to achieve the same if not better cooling then the RS kits with a lot less noise.
Though with that thought processes why not just up it to the EX kits for a bit more... and then why not just make a custom loop... and now you see how I got from an h100 to a $400 custom loop lol.
But in all seriousness look into the RX240s, they are very solid. and if you want more opinions just hit up the WC subforum here and see what everyone is suggesting. Make a thread, give them a budget, and they will come up with the best solution for you.

Do they come up with a best solution for me without me having to do a thing wink.gif? LOL jk but once I decide to water cool I will. Thanks again.

Out of everything what would you say is getting bottle necked? Excluding my 280
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Do they come up with a best solution for me without me having to do a thing wink.gif? LOL jk but once I decide to water cool I will. Thanks again.
Out of everything what would you say is getting bottle necked? Excluding my 280
Well you do have to post system specs, but they will do the rest haha. Honestly the GPU is probably your only real bottleneck.

You're running Ivy bridge and have a solid mobo.
You have an SSD, yes it could be bigger so that could be a potential upgrade especially with neweggs 4th of July sales (128gb for under $100).
You have 8gb of ram which is perfect for gaming, but yes that could be upgraded too (again only about $100 with neweggs sales right now).
Your PSU is bigger then mine and could easily handle SLI, a fan controller, LEDs, pumps, and more then I could reasonably throw at it.
And you have a solid backup drive with 1tb of room.

All I can see that NEEDS to be upgraded is you GPU and your cooling gear. Stock CPU coolers should be scrapped pretty much straight from the start. With the hyper 212s at like $30 there is no reason to be running a stock fan and heatsink. But you want to go liquid cooling so the 212s aren't even a valid argument at this point. So yeah, get yourself a 6xx series and a Rasa kit and you should be good to go man. The rest of the upgrades are nonessential and more just to make your epeen bigger, with minor performance gains.
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Well you do have to post system specs, but they will do the rest haha. Honestly the GPU is probably your only real bottleneck.
You're running Ivy bridge and have a solid mobo.
You have an SSD, yes it could be bigger so that could be a potential upgrade especially with neweggs 4th of July sales (128gb for under $100).
You have 8gb of ram which is perfect for gaming, but yes that could be upgraded too (again only about $100 with neweggs sales right now).
Your PSU is bigger then mine and could easily handle SLI, a fan controller, LEDs, pumps, and more then I could reasonably throw at it.
And you have a solid backup drive with 1tb of room.
All I can see that NEEDS to be upgraded is you GPU and your cooling gear. Stock CPU coolers should be scrapped pretty much straight from the start. With the hyper 212s at like $30 there is no reason to be running a stock fan and heatsink. But you want to go liquid cooling so the 212s aren't even a valid argument at this point. So yeah, get yourself a 6xx series and a Rasa kit and you should be good to go man. The rest of the upgrades are nonessential and more just to make your epeen bigger, with minor performance gains.

Great! Yeah I won't be upgrading GPU until Christmas Sales lol. If I can run Battlefield 3 MAXED on a Server(Xeon) then I'm sure I'll be fine for a little bit longer. I will how ever upgrade to 12, then 16gb of ram before August. The SSD I have now is meant for: OS drive, Battlefield 3, and 1-5 other games. My steam will go on my 1tb HDD because I have at least 300-500gbs of games on my Steam account loool.

Honestly, I haven't even used this computer yet, I have everything listed besides the mobo because I am awaiting my refund cuz newegg sent me a broken one.

SO I still have this feeling that after I plug everything in and hit the power button it isn't going to work :/ lol
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Great! Yeah I won't be upgrading GPU until Christmas Sales lol. If I can run Battlefield 3 MAXED on a Server(Xeon) then I'm sure I'll be fine for a little bit longer. I will how ever upgrade to 12, then 16gb of ram before August. The SSD I have now is meant for: OS drive, Battlefield 3, and 1-5 other games. My steam will go on my 1tb HDD because I have at least 300-500gbs of games on my Steam account loool.
Honestly, I haven't even used this computer yet, I have everything listed besides the mobo because I am awaiting my refund cuz newegg sent me a broken one.
SO I still have this feeling that after I plug everything in and hit the power button it isn't going to work :/ lol
My only suggestion for the ram is to just make the jump to 16gb, I picked up a set of crucial ballistix sport for $120 and couldn't be happier. 2 x 8gb gives me room to up it to 32gb if I really want to. And upgrading in pairs just seems to always give me a more stable system IMO. And the SSD is fine, just a suggestion to get a newer drive since it will perform a bit better and gives you some extra room if you need it. Let me know how it all goes, looking forward to the build!
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