Hey everyone, good to be here. Thank you for reading my post!
I'm in the market for a new computer, and overclocking sounds like a lot of fun. Ive researched like a mad man on what it takes, and im picking a system that i can learn a lot from and have fun tweaking, as well as picking components that will work for future builds should i ever get bored with this one.
A8-3870K- sounds like great bang for buck, relatively easy to oc, and when i get a little better at it i can get a 6670 and play around with that in dual graphics mode. if i fry it no biggie, trinity is coming out soon.
MOBO- little torn on it asus evo or gigabyte ud4h, both have strengths and weaknesses more on that later.
RAM- gskill ripjawsz or tidentx 2400 2x4gb- Ive done the research and i know this build needs awesome ram, this stuff is good enough it will probably be decent in a future build. (the geil corsa evo has a cas9 kit but i cant find it anywhere
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PSU-seasonic platinum 860- best psu out there right now, will last a long time, best cleanest output there is, even at low loads like this build. Anyone trying to find out what the best psu is... ive looked long and hard, this is the one.
CPU cooler- stock for now... noctua nh-d14 later when i get the hang of things, looks like one of the best, and itll last. if the build exceeds my wildest dreams ill start lookin at crazy water setups.
HAF XM - not too huge, great cooling, great looking, nice features, looks like it will last for when i become a real fanatic.
Hard drive- probably go with a WD caviar black for now, seems to be the best hdd thats reasonably priced, and i can always get an ssd later
optical- whatever cd/dvd burner looks decent- pretty much the same
OS- win 7, not sure whether to spring for pro or ult or just get home... pricey for what it is.
I know its a little pricey for a not so powerful rig, but the case, psu, ram, hd/ssd/optical and cooler can all be reused, and most likely the 6670 if/when i get that. My main goal is a stable 24/7 oc rig. I can tell u now im gonna have more fun just messing with stuff in the bios and benchmarking this bad boy than actually using it. i write papers, surf the net and play games that are 10 years old, so this should work for me.
Even tho im probably not going to fully utilize this thing right off the bat im looking at real world performance, and ill probably pick up some newer games once ive got this thing running like a champ.
My main dilemma at this point is the mobo. Ive read every review and nearly every article i can find on what makes a good mobo, and im absoultely stuck on which one i should get.
Gigabyte http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3927#ov
Asus http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM1/F1A75V_EVO/
Most reviews ive read say that the gigabyte is better for overclocking, however there are a few that basically say the asus is a tad faster, I have read one reveiw however that says that the asus board has many more options for it and it might be better if you were going for a max oc, but the gigabyte is easier to oc. Seems all of the major OC guys use the gigabyte board, and im not exactly sure why, my purposes are a little different than the LN2 guys, so it has me wondering.
The asus board has an extra pcie and the heatpipe on the mobo which looks like a nice touch as well. it runs a 6+2 phase digital pwm and it has a much nicer bios it seems. the ram support is listed at only 2250mhz iirc which has me a little worried.
The gigabyte board has an 8+2 (4+1 split) analog pwm, and lists ram support at 2400mhz, with the added goodies of a better audio chip.
I have looked long and hard to find out more about the asus vrm components to find whether it is true 6+2 or a split digital design, but this information evades me. sinhardware says digi pwms dont split well so i am thinking it may be true 6+2. Also the 6670 im lookin at is an asus, it might like the asus board a little better. Since im willing to spend a lot of time messing with it and has a more user friendly bios and mem and cmos reset i am kind of leaning toward it.
What has me stuck is that the gigabyte board is the one people seem to be OCing on, but mostly these guys are lookin for certain numbers rather than real world performance. I know that the higher ram will most certainly be utilized by the apu. sweet spot or not, memory bandwith is king with this apu in real world performance in graphics, and benefits computing slightly because there is no L3 cache. the fact that this board is tried and true plus better claimed memory support has me leaning toward it as well.
theres a lot of misinformation out there, i did my best to wade through the bs, and i really appreciate any help i could get about this build.
My main questions are which vrm is better? which vrm/board will allow more performance with the ultra clean power from the psu, and the decent cooling of the case? should i be concerned with listed memory speed support? which board would you pick, and which one do you think will suit me?
Thanks for reading, cheers!
Edited by xenonightx - 7/5/12 at 5:27pm
I'm in the market for a new computer, and overclocking sounds like a lot of fun. Ive researched like a mad man on what it takes, and im picking a system that i can learn a lot from and have fun tweaking, as well as picking components that will work for future builds should i ever get bored with this one.
A8-3870K- sounds like great bang for buck, relatively easy to oc, and when i get a little better at it i can get a 6670 and play around with that in dual graphics mode. if i fry it no biggie, trinity is coming out soon.
MOBO- little torn on it asus evo or gigabyte ud4h, both have strengths and weaknesses more on that later.
RAM- gskill ripjawsz or tidentx 2400 2x4gb- Ive done the research and i know this build needs awesome ram, this stuff is good enough it will probably be decent in a future build. (the geil corsa evo has a cas9 kit but i cant find it anywhere
)PSU-seasonic platinum 860- best psu out there right now, will last a long time, best cleanest output there is, even at low loads like this build. Anyone trying to find out what the best psu is... ive looked long and hard, this is the one.
CPU cooler- stock for now... noctua nh-d14 later when i get the hang of things, looks like one of the best, and itll last. if the build exceeds my wildest dreams ill start lookin at crazy water setups.
HAF XM - not too huge, great cooling, great looking, nice features, looks like it will last for when i become a real fanatic.
Hard drive- probably go with a WD caviar black for now, seems to be the best hdd thats reasonably priced, and i can always get an ssd later
optical- whatever cd/dvd burner looks decent- pretty much the same
OS- win 7, not sure whether to spring for pro or ult or just get home... pricey for what it is.
I know its a little pricey for a not so powerful rig, but the case, psu, ram, hd/ssd/optical and cooler can all be reused, and most likely the 6670 if/when i get that. My main goal is a stable 24/7 oc rig. I can tell u now im gonna have more fun just messing with stuff in the bios and benchmarking this bad boy than actually using it. i write papers, surf the net and play games that are 10 years old, so this should work for me.
Even tho im probably not going to fully utilize this thing right off the bat im looking at real world performance, and ill probably pick up some newer games once ive got this thing running like a champ.
My main dilemma at this point is the mobo. Ive read every review and nearly every article i can find on what makes a good mobo, and im absoultely stuck on which one i should get.
Gigabyte http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3927#ov
Asus http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_Socket_FM1/F1A75V_EVO/
Most reviews ive read say that the gigabyte is better for overclocking, however there are a few that basically say the asus is a tad faster, I have read one reveiw however that says that the asus board has many more options for it and it might be better if you were going for a max oc, but the gigabyte is easier to oc. Seems all of the major OC guys use the gigabyte board, and im not exactly sure why, my purposes are a little different than the LN2 guys, so it has me wondering.
The asus board has an extra pcie and the heatpipe on the mobo which looks like a nice touch as well. it runs a 6+2 phase digital pwm and it has a much nicer bios it seems. the ram support is listed at only 2250mhz iirc which has me a little worried.
The gigabyte board has an 8+2 (4+1 split) analog pwm, and lists ram support at 2400mhz, with the added goodies of a better audio chip.
I have looked long and hard to find out more about the asus vrm components to find whether it is true 6+2 or a split digital design, but this information evades me. sinhardware says digi pwms dont split well so i am thinking it may be true 6+2. Also the 6670 im lookin at is an asus, it might like the asus board a little better. Since im willing to spend a lot of time messing with it and has a more user friendly bios and mem and cmos reset i am kind of leaning toward it.
What has me stuck is that the gigabyte board is the one people seem to be OCing on, but mostly these guys are lookin for certain numbers rather than real world performance. I know that the higher ram will most certainly be utilized by the apu. sweet spot or not, memory bandwith is king with this apu in real world performance in graphics, and benefits computing slightly because there is no L3 cache. the fact that this board is tried and true plus better claimed memory support has me leaning toward it as well.
theres a lot of misinformation out there, i did my best to wade through the bs, and i really appreciate any help i could get about this build.
My main questions are which vrm is better? which vrm/board will allow more performance with the ultra clean power from the psu, and the decent cooling of the case? should i be concerned with listed memory speed support? which board would you pick, and which one do you think will suit me?
Thanks for reading, cheers!
Edited by xenonightx - 7/5/12 at 5:27pm
