[FUD] AMD 8350 is a 4.0GHz eight-core

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7/5/12 at 8:44am

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Originally Posted by jtom320

Skyrim especially in cities is another good way to see it. SC2 with huge battles is as well.

Skyrim performs bad because of the bad optimization. Only use 2 cores...Meh. For me all the new games must have standard the 4-core setup. And the online games 6/8 core.

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The original price of the 8150 was the same price as the low end i7's was it not? So if these chips are going to be better than bulldozer, I would see them coming to market at around the same price as the low end i7's.

True, but I have a feeling AMD's not going to make the same mistake again. They should know after bulldozer that there's no point trying to challenge i7's (unless it's really good), so I see them targeting the i5's, and trying to steal that area of the market. I guess we'll have to wait and see....

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7/5/12 at 8:48am

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First of all in the surround review it is in surround resolution so you would think it would put all the strain on the gpu. And 200mhz isn't going to make a difference....4.6ghz to 4.8ghz. 200mhz isn't going to increase performance by 50%+ in some of those games.
And in the other review @ 1080p if you CLICK THE LINK there are some overclocked benchmarks of the 8120 @ 4.5ghz getting beat by the i5-2400 which cannot even be overclocked.

I know its i5's are better, I just feel it's unfair to have two CPU's clocked at different speeds against each other. And anyway I'm pretty sure anyone with a brain would pass on both the 8120 and i5 2400 for there big brothers, so that's kind of pointless.

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7/5/12 at 8:49am

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The easiest way to see the perfomance per core is-> Wow dark soul raid ultraxion 25 man. The cpus get pwned and the i5/7 is way better in terms of performance than any amd offers in mmorpg. When i play from my amd setup i will even drop at 5 fps.

Not really. The best way is to run independently-threaded benchmarks with explicit documentation on the workloads.

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7/5/12 at 8:49am

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True, but I have a feeling AMD's not going to make the same mistake again. They should know after bulldozer that there's no point trying to challenge i7's (unless it's really good), so I see them targeting the i5's, and trying to steal that area of the market. I guess we'll have to wait and see....

The reason they will probably come to market with a high price is because they know initially fanboys will buy it, just like bulldozer. I hate using that word, but you sort of have to describe anyone who bought an 8150 or really even an 8120 @ launch prices. They were priced essentially at the low end i7 (i.e. 2600k) price, but obviously couldn't compete and AMD knew that, but like I said they knew AMD fans would buy their overpriced crap anyway, even if it was worse than the competition, just because it was "new".

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I know its i5's are better, I just feel it's unfair to have two CPU's clocked at different speeds against each other.

First of all, clock speed is pretty much irrelevant if they are different architectures. An i5 @ 4ghz and a pentium 4 @ 4ghz perform completely different. And like I said, in the tomshardware review they have the i5 2400 at like 3.1ghz stock and the bulldozer at 4.5ghz and it still loses to the i5.
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7/5/12 at 8:52am

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Not really. The best way is to run independently-threaded benchmarks with explicit documentation on the workloads.

Yeah but i always prefer to try my system in the daily things that i do. You can tweak it/change it better that way.

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The reason they will probably come to market with a high price is because they know initially fanboys will buy it, just like bulldozer. I hate using that word, but you sort of have to describe anyone who bought an 8150 or really even an 8120 @ launch prices. They were priced essentially at the low end i7 (i.e. 2600k) price, but obviously couldn't compete and AMD knew that, but like I said they knew AMD fans would buy their crap anyway, even if it was bad, just because it was "new".

I think thats a bit harsh. I don't think anyone could have known besides AMD that bulldozer would underperform so much. I was almost one of them, but I happened to be on holiday when it was released, so I had time to abandon the "sinking bulldozer ship" and went for an i7.

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7/5/12 at 8:54am

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Skyrim performs bad because of the bad optimization. Only use 2 cores...Meh. For me all the new games must have standard the 4-core setup. And the online games 6/8 core.

Skyrim actually does scale past two threads. Up to 50% load on the fourth core. The issue with the game is not neccesarily that it's unoptimized but that on the highest settings shadows are rendered by the CPU which can cause random and huge drops in performance. It's pretty rare though all things considered.

http://benchmark3d.com/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-benchmark

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7/5/12 at 8:56am

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Originally Posted by sugarhell

Yeah but i always prefer to try my system in the daily things that i do. You can tweak it/change it better that way.

Then why did you say "The easiest way to see the perfomance per core"? ...because it is not.

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Hard Drive	OS	Monitor	Keyboard
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