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7/5/12 at 8:27am

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Originally Posted by DayoftheGreek

This isn't a matter of brand marketing, performance, or even pricing. The rebates intel offered to OEM's came with the catch that the OEM was no longer allowed to purchase products from AMD or they would not give the rebate. It doesn't get much more obviously illegal than that.

They call it a bribe, I call it a loyalty incentive.

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7/5/12 at 8:31am

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Originally Posted by dr/owned

They call it a bribe, I call it a loyalty incentive.

It's a bribe as far as the EU is concerned, and that's really all that matters here.

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7/5/12 at 8:35am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt

There goes Intel...

Where goes Intel?

This won't even put the tiniest scratch on their dominance in the desktop CPU market.

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Originally Posted by dr/owned

They call it a bribe, I call it a loyalty incentive.

Errr no, a loyalty incentive would be this:
"Buy X amount of products with Intel chips, we give you X products free/cheaper with rebates! The more you promote us the more we reward you!".

And instead they did something along the lines of this:
"Don't buy anything from AMD or we screw you over. Also here's some extra cash to delay the releases of product with AMD chips, make sure our stuff is sold first."

Sorry but that's dirtiest/lowest form of "loyalty", for most it would fall firmly within the realms of bribery. Also how do you explain bribing people to delay releases or products with AMD chips in them? Is that "loyalty" too?

But meh, innocent until proven guilty.
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7/5/12 at 8:43am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Malcolm

It's a bribe as far as the EU is concerned, and that's really all that matters here.

Well to be specific, the United States, Japan, South Korea and the EU all think it was a bribe.

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7/5/12 at 8:49am

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Good. I don't need my stock money used on some idiot fine.

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7/5/12 at 8:52am

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Basically, Intel was ruled to pay OEMs to not use the competition, more than the cost of the computer. Intel's CPUs were much more inferior in performance, power consumption, and heat when the lawsuit started. That is like if AMD paid OEMs to prevent them selling computers with Nvidia 8800. I do not think customers would want that.
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7/5/12 at 8:59am

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Originally Posted by DayoftheGreek

They did lose already. It happened in 2009. They are already the guilty party. This is a last ditch effort to try and get the case re-opened to reduce the fine. There is still a chance something could overturn it, but the EU courts seem pretty consistent in ruling on these issues.
No, they are being anti-competitive. It is illegal. It is bad for you and it is bad for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-competitive_practices

since when cant you appeal to a decision!lol!

also intel did not prevent anybody from buying whatever they want,they just gave very good incentive to everybody that wanted them(okok and didnt want them also)
you wanted to buy a gpu from amd you could still get a gpu from amd!this only affected pre made computer!
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7/5/12 at 9:00am

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To those saying "it's just business", bear in mind that at one point Dell was actually making more money from these "discounts" than from their computer sales...

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7/5/12 at 9:06am

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Originally Posted by drbaltazar

this only affected pre made computer!

Which is the exact segment from whence both Intel and AMD derive a substantial portion of their revenue. Losing nearly all OEM sales would mean death for AMD, and also the reason why Intel wanted to own it all. Intel and AMD couldn't care less about the "OCN segment" of gamers who buy 3930Ks and 8150s to play Cawadoody. Those sales are negligible.
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7/5/12 at 9:28am

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Business is business....

And the law is the law.

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[TPU] Intel Appeals Against $1.3 Billion Fine by EU, from 2009

I honestly love this cooler, but I think I'm gonna move on to another one soon, it just looks... A bit to bland compared to other flaming red (literally) coolers on the market.

Metro 2033 is one of the greatest FPS games ever made. Although not usually recognized as such, due to the horrible state the gaming industry is in, it succeeds largely on its storytelling,...

This is an update of the original Fractal Design Arc Midi. The solid left panel has been replaced by a panel with a plexiglass window and the top USB ports are now USB-3.0. Let me state at the...

I've used this headset extensively for MAG on PS3. The sounds were wonderful, the mic was crisp, and the ability to adjust peoples voice volume is absolutely invaluable. For $100 ( or less ) this...

The Pros The reason this card is one of the better non-Tahiti 7870s is because of Gigabyte's custom PCB. Gigabyte took the 7870 and replaced it's memory chips with Hynix memory so they perform a...

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