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Hate to bother you too much but if I was to install a service, say, a http or ftp server, what ports am I allowed to set them as.

I mainly just want to try setting up HTTP right now.
     
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Hate to bother you too much but if I was to install a service, say, a http or ftp server, what ports am I allowed to set them as.

I mainly just want to try setting up HTTP right now.

All ports except the one you are assigned are blocked.

You can set your web/ftp to listen on that assigned port.
    
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All ports except the one you are assigned are blocked.

You can set your web/ftp to listen on that assigned port.


Won't that interfere at all though?
     
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Won't that interfere at all though?

Not really. SSH and HTTP can listen on the same port, different protocols.
    
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Not really. SSH and HTTP can listen on the same port, different protocols.

You cant have multiple daemons listening on the same port and IP.

I mean, you could try, but the socket will get locked by the first listener and thus the 2nd daemon will fail to start.
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You cant have multiple daemons listening on the same port and IP.

I mean, you could try, but the socket will get locked by the first listener and thus the 2nd daemon will fail to start.


Oh yeah, that's right.

So what should I do? Perhaps you can give each vps a few random ports for general use?
     
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You cant have multiple daemons listening on the same port and IP.

I mean, you could try, but the socket will get locked by the first listener and thus the 2nd daemon will fail to start.

Hmm

Personal experience alert: I use Webmin on my VPS, which is SSL(443) I also use SSH over port 443 to bypass some firewalls.

Zero issues connecting to both.

Listening is different than using at the same time.
    
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Oh yeah, that's right.

So what should I do? Perhaps you can give each vps a few random ports for general use?

Sure. Send me a PM of some ports you want.
    
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Hmm

Personal experience alert: I use Webmin on my VPS, which is SSL(443) I also use SSH over port 443 to bypass some firewalls.

Zero issues connecting to both.
They wouldn't both be on the same IP. Or one is listening on UDP and the other on TCP (though I've never known HTTPS nor SSH use UDP).

You cannot have two listening sockets on the same IP, port and datagram. It's just not possible as there is no way for the kernel to route the packets to the appropriate daemons. AFAIK, no OS is capable of this, be that Windows, Linux or Solaris.
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Listening is different than using at the same time.
That's kind of true, you can have multiple active connections on a single port, but that's via a cheeky workaround where active traffic is assigned a random port numbers to avoid conflicts. However we are talking about daemon listeners here. Both HTTP and SSH work on a simple client-server relationship where the httpd and sshd is a persistent daemon with a listening thread that then forks whenever a connection is made, thus allowing new incoming connections while active sockets are open. So at any one point in time, both the httpd and sshd will have idle open listeners.

You could probably work around that with clever firewalling though. Have incoming traffic on 443 'sniffed' and if it detects an SSL handshake then route traffic to a different virtual IP on the same box than an empty connection request (which would imply an SSH connection). That way your outbound IP appears to be serving both SSL/TLS and SSH traffic on the same port and IP, but your kernel isn't trying to listen on the same ports, IP and datagram.
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They wouldn't both be on the same IP. Or one is listening on UDP and the other on TCP (though I've never known HTTPS nor SSH use UDP).

You cannot have two listening sockets on the same IP, port and datagram. It's just not possible as there is no way for the kernel to route the packets to the appropriate daemons. AFAIK, no OS is capable of this, be that Windows, Linux or Solaris.
That's kind of true, you can have multiple active connections on a single port, but that's via a cheeky workaround where active traffic is assigned a random port numbers to avoid conflicts. However we are talking about daemon listeners here. Both HTTP and SSH work on a simple client-server relationship where the httpd and sshd is a persistent daemon with a listening thread that then forks whenever a connection is made, thus allowing new incoming connections while active sockets are open. So at any one point in time, both the httpd and sshd will have idle open listeners.

You could probably work around that with clever firewalling though. Have incoming traffic on 443 'sniffed' and if it detects an SSL handshake then route traffic to a different virtual IP on the same box than an empty connection request (which would imply an SSH connection). That way your outbound IP appears to be serving both SSL/TLS and SSH traffic on the same port and IP, but your kernel isn't trying to listen on the same ports, IP and datagram.

You are correct. I have Webmin listening on another IP. smile.gif

Also for those with a zone I forgot to add a package to the installs. If you wish to add packages manually ie: download them and install. You must install the pkg-utilities by performing the following.
Code:
pkg install SUNWpkgcmds

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