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6GB is still REALLY pushing it. I've yet to see a review where 4GB isn't enough for Eyefinity.... 6GB is overkill. Until you show me otherwise I stand by my thoughts.

Problem with reviews that bother doing Eyefinity is that they do 3x1 1080p, i.e., ~6 megapixels and, most importantly, they don't apply their brains and just throw something silly like x16 AA into the settings just bcos it's part of "ultra" in game X or Y. The main point of the x16 AA was to sell high end GFX cards before eyefinity/surround came around. Human vision system is physically limited to roughly one arc minute of angular resolution (i.e., anything higher than that and the cells in your eye you use for vision see more than one pixel simultaneously in the central area where they are packed the most dense) which translates roughly into 100 ppi at roughly few feet from the display.

In the case of Eyefinity arrays, even if you are using rather large displays and sitting relatively close max AA levels that make sense are around x2 or max up to x4 (if you are using 27'' at 1080p).

For example, I'm using 5x 23'' 1080p displays in portrait sitting ~75 cm from my displays and I really cant tell at a glance if I'm at x0 AA, x2 AA or x16 AA without looking at the settings (i.e, get someone else to set the AA level and try to guess by looking at the screen what level of AA, if any, is applied).

With the 1440p Koreans getting as low as 250 euros I would really expect the review sites to put in a little more effort into their reviews and at least do 3x 1440p in their reviews when they investigate higher end cards. All mid to high end cards on the market today can do 3x 1440p Eyefinity/Surround.
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sadly aa is relativly bad.compared to after process like mlaa.hell some say we could get rid of aa altogether sadly there is no disabled option unless the game or app say so!but i suspect amd intel and nvidia will have to find a a new way process aa cause clearly the one existing today (if we ignore after process)are clearly useless past 4x
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Niche card for Niche market. designed for 3x1600p or higher.
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And once again i failed to make sense of that.
Back to my original point
Niche card for Niche market. designed for 3x1600p or higher.

While true that niche is no longer negligibly small as you can get 3x1440p for the price of 2x reference 7950 cards and these displays will serve you longer with acceptable performance than the cards (which, while not losing the performance are usually considered "a bit old" few years down the road).

I was looking at the results of Steam hardware survey this morning http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ and while the 1920x1080 resolution is still the most relevant higher resolutions are picking up market share quite well with resolutions at or above 1440p already close to 1% of total (while 1% might seem like not a lot it's actually approx 50 000 at peak online time out of approx 5 mil peak concurrent users of Steam, unfortunately I don't know what is the total registered number of accounts for steam).
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12gb is just marketing hype, funny thing only half of that will ever be used. I guess AMD think 12gb will give them a reason to sell it for 10000€
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12gb is just marketing hype, funny thing only half of that will ever be used. I guess AMD think 12gb will give them a reason to sell it for 10000€

read the friggin article. It states that vendors MIGHT bring out custom 12GB versions, which means its pure speculation. The official AMD card is going to have 6GB (3GB per GPU), sheesh.

Also, quit whining about the marketing crap y'all. Everyone in this thread acts like its the first time they do this while in fact it has ALWAYS been like that ever since the beginning of Dual GPU cards. The 6990 is also marketed as 4GB, the 590 as 3GB etc and they have the right to do so since the amount of memory IS physically available on the card even if only half of it is effectively usable.
Edited by toX0rz - 7/25/12 at 4:10am
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its 25 July. where is it biggrin.gif
    
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post #168 of 175
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Also, quit whining about the marketing crap y'all. Everyone in this thread acts like its the first time they do this while in fact it has ALWAYS been like that ever since the beginning of Dual GPU cards. The 6990 is also marketed as 4GB, the 590 as 3GB etc and they have the right to do so since the amount of memory IS physically available on the card even if only half of it is effectively usable.

Not only that, but it distinguishes it from a single GPU card. It's a dual card with two 6GB chips, thus making it a 12GB card. The amount you can effectively use is part of the feature set. The actual dual GPU card has 12GB on it.
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If you only need 2gigs of VRAM, what're the other 10gigs for?
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Pointless? Perhaps, but that would be very closed-minded to assume. I have the benefit of the doubt there will be many applications for this GPU.

Besides; if it sells, it's a successful product. Even if it's inferior. Simple as that. That's how business works.
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