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Hey guys,

I see a lot of threads started by people wanting to get a nice home server going.... Well I do too now! The problem is, the choices are mindboggling and I'm asking for YOUR help on this smile.gif I'm going to update this post in the topic to reflect what I am trying to sort out/work on during this process so it will be as quick and as painless as possible. Instead of doing a cookie cutter server, we are going to go through it one by one so I make the right choices, I don't need the server overnight but maybe by the time school starts!

So, my needs are as follows:
  1. Home Media Server running some type of OS. I want to stream video to my Apple TV and sync music on iTunes libraries between the server and my Macbook Air. This is different than just Home Sharing because I need the files on both hard drives to be identical. I found a program called SuperSync to manage this but it's only Windows and Mac so my server will have to run Windows.
  2. Accessible remotely aka over the internet for just retrieving files.
  3. Possibly hosting as a small private game server in the future. (Need explanation on how to do this).
  4. Content accessible from an iPhone/iPad. There are some iOS apps that offer this but I'm not sure how or which to choose.

Proposed component list:


Currently asking for help on:
Deciding 4GB or 8GB RAM for $20 difference, Operating system choices, 7200rpm or Western digital RED for RAID-5. I know WD Green doesn't bode well with RAID-5 so that isn't a choice. I also save about $200 going with Seagate than WD.
Edited by Doomtomb - 7/26/12 at 8:37am
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post #2 of 12
I think Amahi covers all those features. I think it will stream to iDevices, not sure.

Only thing left would be the chassis and some kind of SAS expander. Or four SATA drives + four IDE drives. Probably a SAS expander (with associated power plugs) is what's required.

If you have limited Linux experience or don't want any surprises (like me) you can always try installing Amahi in a VM on your windows machine in preparation for the installation on the physical one.
 
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What CPU, RAM, and motherboard?

He does not need SAS expander since he does not even have a SAS controller (and does not need one either).
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

What CPU, RAM, and motherboard?
He does not need SAS expander since he does not even have a SAS controller (and does not need one either).

I was just thinking not every board has 8 SATA ports. Some do, some may not. Probably just RAID controller would work just as well.

You didn't mention a budget for the chassis but this one looks like it might fit your requirement at a mere $265US.
 
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post #5 of 12
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I was thinking of getting a RAID controller for RAID 5 or 6. I am planning on using the hardware in my sig rig as the server but looking for a new chassis and raid card and OS to do it all under.
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Originally Posted by subassy View Post

I was just thinking not every board has 8 SATA ports. Some do, some may not. Probably just RAID controller would work just as well.
You didn't mention a budget for the chassis but this one looks like it might fit your requirement at a mere $265US.

You can get much more capable cases for less....

6-10 3.5" bays for less than $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008044&IsNodeId=1&Description=4U%20case&name=Server%20Chassis&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=20

This NZXT H2 is good for servers since HDDs are externally accessible: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146072

Fractal Design has a few good cases for servers as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%2050014581&IsNodeId=1&name=Fractal%20Design
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

You can get much more capable cases for less....
6-10 3.5" bays for less than $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008044&IsNodeId=1&Description=4U%20case&name=Server%20Chassis&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=20
This NZXT H2 is good for servers since HDDs are externally accessible: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146072
Fractal Design has a few good cases for servers as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%2050014581&IsNodeId=1&name=Fractal%20Design

Actually I mis-read his requirements. Didn't see the "OR side" part, thought he just wanted from the front. Guess 8 from the front isn't that easy to find.
 
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I've been thinking.... Rackmount or pedestal? I think i prefer pedestal/tower and for hard drive caddies i can get hot swaps that fit through the front drive bays. Like anAntec 300 style case but i dont want the fan to be in front of the drives like the NZXT H2
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post #9 of 12
Get the Fractal Design Define XL case. It has 10 HDD bays, and four 5.25'' bays (can be converted to 3.5'' with an adapter)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352018

I would look into software raid using Unraid, FreeNAS or FlexRAID. Hardware RAID is too expensive. Use this SAS extentder
http://www.provantage.com/supermicro-aoc-sas2lp-mv8~7SUP92PM.htm

You could get two of these to get 6 HDD hot swappable bays. Each of them requires two 5.25'' bays.
http://www.ipcdirect.net/servlet/Detail?no=307

These might interest you as well
http://www.ipcdirect.net/servlet/Detail?no=226
http://www.ipcdirect.net/servlet/Detail?no=178
Edited by bengal - 7/8/12 at 9:59pm
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Thread Starter 
I have decided on using two of these Startech 4 hot swap in 3 5.25" bay cages

I want to use it with a regular ATX or MicroATX computer case like the old and trusty Antec 900

Is there a case just like the Antec 900 but less gaudy? Basically I want something small, discrete, not a gamer-style case but with all 5.25" drive bays, no side-mounted 3.5" drive cages so I can just stick the Startech drive cages in through the front and swap hard drives as I please.

EDIT:
Found a couple cases
Antec 300
Antec 100*

*Looks like I would need to dremel off the 3.5" bay awkwardedly put in the middle.

Would either of these cases be compatible with two Startech hotswap cages?
Edited by Doomtomb - 7/10/12 at 2:27pm
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