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7/6/12 at 7:09pm

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my brother is looking to build himself a computer for under $500 dollars, he was looking into a laptop but couldn't find anything powerful enough. he wants be able to run UDK, CryEngine, and other game creation software. in addition, he will be doing light gaming and web searching. He has decided to go with AMD in order to save some money, *price is an issue*

lastly, his video card it on the lower side, but he is starting with that just to get by and then will upgrade it later when he gets more money

this is his build so far,

-CPU - AMD A6-3670K Unlocked Llano - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106002

-Motherboard - ASRock A75 PRO FM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157258

Edit: -RAM - G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2X4GB) - DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416

-Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

-PSU - Corsair Builder Series 500W - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

-Case - Raidmax Tornado - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226

Edit: -Graphics card - ? 6570

my questions are,

1. will it be powerful enough to run what he wants, or will he need to buy something more powerful?

2. Is he missing anything, will he need something else?

thanks for the help

Edited by zer0d3gree - 7/7/12 at 7:41am

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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
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Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
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Raidmax Aeolus	CM Storm Recon	Cooler Master CM Storm Speed RXL	Turtle Beach Z6A 5.1 Headphones
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AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
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Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
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Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
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7/6/12 at 7:14pm

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That graphics card is going to get pooped on by any game.

I would suggest upgrading to the A8 and crossfire the apu with a 6570

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001

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7/6/12 at 7:21pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ITS OVER 9000!

That graphics card is going to get pooped on by any game.

I would suggest upgrading to the A8 and crossfire the apu with a 6570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001

^this . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125376

edit: for the psu, this will work fine . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

for the case which allows for cable management . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146061
Edited by rdr09 - 7/6/12 at 7:34pm

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
1600 4.0 / 1.4	880	none	4 / 1600
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96 / 250	120	7 64	19 / 40 1080
Power	Case
550	430
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2700 4.5/ 1.28	77	7970	8 / 1600
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7/6/12 at 7:22pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ITS OVER 9000!

That graphics card is going to get pooped on by any game.

I would suggest upgrading to the A8 and crossfire the apu with a 6570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106001

ok cool, how much of a performance gain would he get by buying the A8?

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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
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Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
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AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
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Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Raidmax Aeolus	CM Storm Recon	Cooler Master CM Storm Speed RXL	Turtle Beach Z6A 5.1 Headphones
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AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
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7/6/12 at 7:24pm

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That $30 graphic card is a waste since you have integrated video. Either put that money into a better cpu or a better graphics card.

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7/6/12 at 7:32pm

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Besides the graphics card issue, i am wondering how well the computer will perform, is it sufficient for his needs?

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570K	Z77X-UD5H	XFX Radeon HD DD 7870 Black Edition	G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series (2x4Gb)
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Raidmax Aeolus	CM Storm Recon	Cooler Master CM Storm Speed RXL	Turtle Beach Z6A 5.1 Headphones
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
OS	Mouse
Windows 7 Home Premium	Microsoft Explorer Touch Mouse
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570K	Z77X-UD5H	XFX Radeon HD DD 7870 Black Edition	G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series (2x4Gb)
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Raidmax Aeolus	CM Storm Recon	Cooler Master CM Storm Speed RXL	Turtle Beach Z6A 5.1 Headphones
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
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7/6/12 at 7:40pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zer0d3gree

Besides the graphics card issue, i am wondering how well the computer will perform, is it sufficient for his needs?

this thread might help answer your question . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1274862/amd-a8-3870k-apu-benchmarked-with-and-without-6670-dual-graphics

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
1600 4.0 / 1.4	880	none	4 / 1600
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
96 / 250	120	7 64	19 / 40 1080
Power	Case
550	430
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
2700 4.5/ 1.28	77	7970	8 / 1600
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
500	120 (2)	7 64	1
Power	Case
700	912
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
1600 4.0 / 1.4	880	none	4 / 1600
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
96 / 250	120	7 64	19 / 40 1080
Power	Case
550	430
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
2700 4.5/ 1.28	77	7970	8 / 1600
Hard Drive	Cooling	OS	Monitor
500	120 (2)	7 64	1
Power	Case
700	912
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7/6/12 at 7:50pm

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is your brother into over clocking?

Motherboard	Graphics	RAM	RAM
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Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR180GB	SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW	Sony BDUx10	Ibuypower AMD AM3 CPU Watercooling All-in-one s...
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 PRO 32 bit	Dell ST2320LF 23-Inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD...	GIGABYTE GK-K6800	OCZ OCZ850GXSSLI GameXStream 850W
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Asus Sbertooth	Asus GTX 570	G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)	G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR180GB	SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW	Sony BDUx10	Ibuypower AMD AM3 CPU Watercooling All-in-one s...
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 PRO 32 bit	Dell ST2320LF 23-Inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD...	GIGABYTE GK-K6800	OCZ OCZ850GXSSLI GameXStream 850W
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7/6/12 at 7:55pm

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Dont think he will, so no to overclocking

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570K	Z77X-UD5H	XFX Radeon HD DD 7870 Black Edition	G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series (2x4Gb)
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Raidmax Aeolus	CM Storm Recon	Cooler Master CM Storm Speed RXL	Turtle Beach Z6A 5.1 Headphones
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
OS	Mouse
Windows 7 Home Premium	Microsoft Explorer Touch Mouse
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
Intel Core i5 3570K	Z77X-UD5H	XFX Radeon HD DD 7870 Black Edition	G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series (2x4Gb)
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Western Digital Caviar Black 500Gb	Crucial M4 128Gb	Sony 24X Optic Drive	Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 Home Premium	ASUS VS Series VS238H-P	Cooler Master CM Storm Trigger	Corsair Gamming Series 600W
Case	Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Raidmax Aeolus	CM Storm Recon	Cooler Master CM Storm Speed RXL	Turtle Beach Z6A 5.1 Headphones
View all

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD Athlon(tm) ii P340 Dual Core @2.2Ghz	Toshiba Portable PC Motherboard	ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series	Kingston 4Gb (2X2Gb)
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Windows 7 Home Premium	Microsoft Explorer Touch Mouse
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7/6/12 at 8:22pm

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here you go soild rig 428.00 out the door

Motherboard	Graphics	RAM	RAM
Asus Sbertooth	Asus GTX 570	G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)	G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR180GB	SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW	Sony BDUx10	Ibuypower AMD AM3 CPU Watercooling All-in-one s...
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 PRO 32 bit	Dell ST2320LF 23-Inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD...	GIGABYTE GK-K6800	OCZ OCZ850GXSSLI GameXStream 850W
Case	Mouse	Audio
ENERMAX FULMO Advance ECA892AG-BL	GIGABYTE GM-M6800 Noble	Sony SRS-DB500 2.1 Portable Speakers
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Motherboard	Graphics	RAM	RAM
Asus Sbertooth	Asus GTX 570	G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)	G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR180GB	SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW	Sony BDUx10	Ibuypower AMD AM3 CPU Watercooling All-in-one s...
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 PRO 32 bit	Dell ST2320LF 23-Inch Widescreen Flat Panel LCD...	GIGABYTE GK-K6800	OCZ OCZ850GXSSLI GameXStream 850W
Case	Mouse	Audio
ENERMAX FULMO Advance ECA892AG-BL	GIGABYTE GM-M6800 Noble	Sony SRS-DB500 2.1 Portable Speakers
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