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Hello,

In my upcoming build i would like to watercool a 3960X cpu and possibly if things go right, an EVGA GTX690 Hydro Copper.

I have chosen to go with XSPC Rasa 750 RS360, mostly because of budget thats being quite tight. I heard to cool both components i would need something more, so i thought i would add another radiator, would that be enough to cool both ? Obviously, i'd like to stay on this new price, and i already count with the XSPC Rasa for my build. Will the pump be able to cool the components even after i add second radiator ?

And least but not last, since this is my first time, how should i set-up the tubing. ( where should the tubing lead first, the cpu ? etc. )

Thanks for answers.
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post #2 of 17
Well, since the 690 is basically 2 video cards in one, I'd personally add at least another radiator ... either a 280 (140x2) or a 360 (120x3 if you want to stick with all 120mm fans).

But that's just me.
post #3 of 17
you could possibly cool a rig as such with a 360 rad, but that would be pushing it, and besides it would limit your overclockability. I would say get another rad. Rad's dont cause much restriction so you should, depending on your pump, be fine. When routing your tubing go for the cleanest looking configuration.

What pump are you using? and how much more rad can you fit in your case?
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post #4 of 17
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I dont really know what pipe it is, its included in the XSPC rasa WC Kit. But i saw some guys on Youtube using another rad just fine so hopefully i wont have much troubles with it.

As for case, thats a bit different...Right now the idea is to have the Computer inside of a table. The 360 Rad, BD-Rom and the reservoir with On/Off + Reset switches should be in a front panel, middle panel act as a plastic window and left panel including two 200mm CM fans+grills.

I am basically just trying to get more information on the whole WC thing, as right now the table is yet to be started on. If i need another Rad, i'd have to think about a place where the RAD would fit the most, and then when i go to the hobby shop, ask them to make there a hole for the rad.

Hope that helps.
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post #5 of 17
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Well so i have been checking the budget, and i am running out of headroom pretty quick. Have to make sure there is enough for the table, you know. Say i just want to cool the 690, dont really care about overclocking it, or if its cooled most effectively, but would like to push the CPU a little bit though, would that single 360 rad be enough ? Even if it was tight, it would be really great. I'd save quite a lot of money. Which, right now, is probably the main issue.
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post #6 of 17
What is the ambiaint room temp where the system will be?
Do you plan on adding a 2nd gpu?
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No, i dont plan to use another GPU, this one is enough for 1080p 3D gaming.

As for temps, the table part where the computer should be is right in the way of central cooling, or however its called. Basically from kitchen, where a window is constantly opened, a wind is blowing the air right into my room and the two 200mm CM fans on the left side will be pulling that cold air in the rig, the 3 fans on the radiator in the front should then blow it out of the table. Thats how i plan it.

EDIT : The temp is around 20 degree. Its quite cold now, actually.
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post #8 of 17
for the tubing question always go, Res>pump>rest don't really matter, in a perfect world you would go CPU>rad>GPU rad, but every build is different and its not always possible, anyways as long as you go res to pump ( with the res above the pump) the rest is up to you as the temp difference in any order will be only a few degrees at most.

Oh and you should be fine with that pump adding another rad, I currently have a single pump with a lower rating running 4 rads, though remember that the more 90 degree fittings you use will add restriction to your loop, 45 degrees not so much, and less tubing is better as well, dont use 18 inches when 9 inches will do.
Edited by Krahe - 7/7/12 at 6:34am
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post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Krahe View Post

for the tubing question always go, Res>pump>rest don't really matter, in a perfect world you would go CPU>rad>GPU rad, but every build is different and its not always possible, anyways as long as you go res to pump ( with the res above the pump) the rest is up to you as the temp difference in any order will be only a few degrees at most.

If, afterall, i used just the XSPC kit, then i thought of running - Res>cpu>rad>gpu>res. Because the pump is inside. Would that do it ?
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post #10 of 17
Is there a reason you chose the rs360 kit over the rx360 one other than price?

I'd want at least 480mm of rad space if that was me. So add either a 240 or maybe a 120mm. But both the GPU and CPU run hot.
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