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Time to retire my Microsoft 1.1

post #1 of 12
7/7/12 at 10:13pm
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Well since I can remember I've been using my trusty MS 1.1 but I feel the time is right to hang it up. I'm looking for a mouse with a similar style and feel and would love some recommendations.

Based off my limited research I'm considering the Zowie AM, Zowie EC1/2 and the SteelSeries Kana.

I would love to hear from others what they recommend, and maybe some others moved on from the 1.1 as well and could provide input.

[My mousepad is the QCK+ and I mainly play FPS (Counter-Strike), I believe my grip would be classified as a palm grip.]

Thanks in advance!
Edited by werd - 7/7/12 at 10:16pm
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7/7/12 at 10:16pm
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I have never used one, but I have never seen a bad review on the SteelSeries. Thinking of getting on myself to replace my Imperator.
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post #3 of 12
7/8/12 at 1:17am
The 1.1 has the following important features which is the reason it is still popular today:
- no acceleration
- no prediction
- no pixel skipping or other major tracking faults
- Solid build quality

If you want to get a new mouse which keeps the same benefits as what you are used to then you can automatically scratch any steelseries mouse from your potential buy-list.
To the best of my knowledge, the only mice that fit the above specified criterea today are:
The zowie AM/EC/ec evo
The razer deathadder
The CM storm spawn
The logitech g400 (newer version of it)
The razer abyssus if you get a jitter free version

The I wouldn't consider the kana a viable replacement. The TTC switches and crap-skatez should should make you think twice. Not to mention the subpar sensor which god only knows what they did to "correct" the bugs it had.
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post #4 of 12
7/8/12 at 2:46am
Add the Roccat Savu to that list.

A3090 sensor with infrared LED capable of up to 4m/s without acceleration nor angle snapping. It can be palmed and clawed, weights about 90 grams and the mousefeet are quite good.

It's still to be seen if the mousewheel will last, though, as Roccat is famed for having mousewheels that just don't last over a couple of months, however this should be built with new components, so it needs to be tested. Time will tell.
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post #5 of 12
7/8/12 at 3:51am
Believe the encoder is an ALPS EC10. whistle.gif
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post #6 of 12
7/8/12 at 3:54am
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Believe the encoder is an ALPS EC10. whistle.gif

...

Ok, I'll go back to my Abyssus when the scrollwheel breaks then thumb.gif
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post #7 of 12
7/8/12 at 3:56am
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I have never used one, but I have never seen a bad review on the SteelSeries. Thinking of getting on myself to replace my Imperator.

Reviews are mostly useless. Best thing to do (IMO) is doing a google search of "mouse-name problem" and read, remembering to take into account date and other specifics. SS comes out very bad after doing this.
Doing this with a good mouse, like the ones listed below, will give you random post about normal failures that can be expected in any mass produced piece of technology.
Doing this with a bad mouse will give you a LOT of posts of the same failure/problem/complain.
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The zowie AM/EC/ec evo
The razer deathadder
The CM storm spawn
The logitech g400 (newer version of it)
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7/8/12 at 4:18am
Steelseries Xai. You can't actually buy the Xai, branded as such, but the Diablo 3 edition steelseries mouse IS the Xai, and is wonderful.
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7/8/12 at 4:32am
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Steelseries Xai. You can't actually buy the Xai, branded as such, but the Diablo 3 edition steelseries mouse IS the Xai, and is wonderful.

No, it's not.
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post #10 of 12
7/8/12 at 4:44am
I used a 1.1 for several months and it was my perfect mouse except for the fact that it would skip on quick swipes, eventually I ended up with a Zowie EC2 Evo and its been smooth sailing since. It fits perfectly in my hand when I palm it and I haven't used anything else that comes as close to the 1.1 as the EC2.

I also have a Zowie AM and I feel that it's a bit too small for a palm grip, it feels too cramped and I had to resort to a claw grip to use it. Another mouse that I've seen former 1.1 users gloat about is the Sensei, I almost got one over the EC2 but as of now I don't have any experience with it so I can't say if it's like a 1.1 or not. The Savu looks like it might also fit the bill, I personally would have given it more consideration if it had come out sooner in the US.

The G400, DA, and Spawn are nothing like the 1.1 and I own the former two and I've used them extensively. The G400 and the DA will work very well with a palm grip but they share none of the characteristics of the 1.1, and then you have the Spawn which is very small and suited towards a claw grip.
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