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Hell all,

I am planning to put together 2 high end gaming rigs next January with our tax returns (have our first house to claim so this will be boosting the return!). Anyway I am planning on this board:

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/SABERTOOTH_Z77/#specifications

And really like the reviews for this heat sink:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-103-089&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark&SelectedRating=5&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

First off it says compatible with sandy bridge, dose that mean it is NOT compatible with Ivy bridge? I DEFINITELY plan on an Ivy CPU to take full advantage of the Boards 2 PCIe 3.0 slots.

The second question is dose anyone have enough experience with either of these products to know if that heat sink will pose a problem for ram on this board? I was considering these ram chips since they are low profile and should fit...

http://www.corsair.com/memory-by-product-family/vengeance/vengeance-low-profile-8gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cml8gx3m2a1600c9w.html/

Though it does say they are designed for second gen Intel chips.. dose that mean they will bottle neck me on ram speed with an Ivy bridge which has 1600mhz native support?

Bear with me, I am a techie but actually building a system from scratch is new territory.. (though i don't know why i waited so long... i can build out these two systems from scratch at the price on high end oem would run me)
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you can use sandy bridge chips on z77 boards (make sure u dont get mixed up with sandy bridge-e)
    
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I know I can, but I don't want to. The main reason I chose this board was the two PCIe 3.0 slots. I definitely plan on getting PCIe 3.0 video cards for these boxes, hence the need for an Ivy bridge.
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I know I can, but I don't want to. The main reason I chose this board was the two PCIe 3.0 slots. I definitely plan on getting PCIe 3.0 video cards for these boxes, hence the need for an Ivy bridge.
yeh sorry i misread it. yes it is compatible with ivy bridge cpu's and also sandy bridge cpu's.
    
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You can plan on cases, fans, heatsink and storage.
Boards, CPUs, memory and graphics cards are too hard to plan for as the market is more volatile and there's always something new coming out. I'd suggest making a new thread in December.

Few things to note -

don't worry about being "bottlenecked"
Gamers tend to obsess about this for some reason. It doesn't matter nearly as much as you'd think. Memory is memory to some extent, ESPECIALLY with the current generation of CPUS(all of which have A LOT of cache thereby mitigating the need for fast system memory)

for a gaming system, in order of importance

GPU
CPU
RAM
BOARD

For the sake of argument, let's say that the GPU matters 5x as much as the CPU which matters 5x as much as the RAM which matters 5x as much as the board when it comes to system performance within a game.

If you're benching the numbers aren't as widespread though...
Edited by xlink - 7/8/12 at 10:18pm
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80GB Intel x25-m + 640GB WD cavier Lite On DVD burner Windows 7 Dell 2005 FPW & Dell e207wfp 
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post #6 of 6
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I agree with your order of importance, but there is a problem with putting the board at the bottom. Lets say you want the best newest GPU, if you buy a new GPU, like the geforce 690, and your board doesn't have any pcie 3.0 slots, you will only be able to utilize half of the bandwidth the card is capable of. Same goes for the CPU.. if you have sandy bridge cpu, that pcie 3.0 gpu wont be running at full speed. So, in essence, the reason I am interested in this board and this CPU is all to support the GPUs, ya know?

As for the Case and heat sink, I'm liking these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-103-089&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark&SelectedRating=5&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo


But your right about the volatility. We will, of course, be re-examining EVERYTHING come February...
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