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By ROM numbers, I meant total number of thread views, thread activity and number or Thanks generated by the OP and how many hr had. You can get a feel for if people like his work and if he's been around a while.
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Where do you find their ROM threads?

In the carrier forum. smile.gif

Just type in carrier, s3, xda and click Android Development on Google.
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I would personally use Kyan til Kyan has a JB ROM. But if you want to change, I would go to this one next.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765130

I always look at ROM activity. You can't go wrong with the numbers.

Sounds good. Just curious, in simple terms, what's the difference between the one you linked and KyanROM?

I might just stick with KyanROM then and just get by.

Another question... So I'm reading about kernel on here and on xda. Is there any negative side effects to Koontz one? I mean I've seen people say it's faster, better battery, and all that stuff. Is it one of those things you should always do? And how do kernel updates work with rom updates? If I update KyanROM, what will happen? What about upgrading to JB?

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I would personally use Kyan til Kyan has a JB ROM. But if you want to change, I would go to this one next.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765130

I always look at ROM activity. You can't go wrong with the numbers.

Sounds good. Just curious, in simple terms, what's the difference between the one you linked and KyanROM?

I might just stick with KyanROM then and just get by.

Another question... So I'm reading about kernel on here and on xda. Is there any negative side effects to Koontz one? I mean I've seen people say it's faster, better battery, and all that stuff. Is it one of those things you should always do? And how do kernel updates work with rom updates? If I update KyanROM, what will happen? What about upgrading to JB?

Thanks!

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Negative? They are mostly alphas and betas at this point. None are guaranteed stable and you are a guinea pig. Faster and better battery are a double edged sword. You can OC and it's faster, faster battery drain. But it can also undervolt and save battery. I do it when I feel comfortable that it is stable. Sometimes you have to fully reflash a ROM to get back to stock if it's borked. I do a full reset couple times a week anyway. Kernel updates you just flash. When you update a ROM, you'll have to reflash the kernel. If you updated to JB, you'll reflash.
Flashing a ROM will always add the stock or modified by the ROM's Dev if they are capable back. Then you have to flash your preferred kernel again.

Just flash the crap out of it. Lol. That's what I did and that's how I learned. ODIN can save you. smile.gif
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Negative? They are mostly alphas and betas at this point. None are guaranteed stable and you are a guinea pig. Faster and better battery are a double edged sword. You can OC and it's faster, faster battery drain. But it can also undervolt and save battery. I do it when I feel comfortable that it is stable. Sometimes you have to fully reflash a ROM to get back to stock if it's borked. I do a full reset couple times a week anyway. Kernel updates you just flash. When you update a ROM, you'll have to reflash the kernel. If you updated to JB, you'll reflash.
Flashing a ROM will always add the stock or modified by the ROM's Dev if they are capable back. Then you have to flash your preferred kernel again.
Just flash the crap out of it. Lol. That's what I did and that's how I learned. ODIN can save you. smile.gif

Okay, got ya. I am assuming you are talking about JB ROMs. So is there an estimate at when these will be stable? Will it be based on when an AT&T JB build is released, or something else?

So with kernel, does it do anything other than unlocking the ability to OC and undervolt?

Last thing, I haven't used ODIN yet. What can it do that CWM can't? I always just use CWM for restores.

Thanks again man, you are a huge help.
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Negative? They are mostly alphas and betas at this point. None are guaranteed stable and you are a guinea pig. Faster and better battery are a double edged sword. You can OC and it's faster, faster battery drain. But it can also undervolt and save battery. I do it when I feel comfortable that it is stable. Sometimes you have to fully reflash a ROM to get back to stock if it's borked. I do a full reset couple times a week anyway. Kernel updates you just flash. When you update a ROM, you'll have to reflash the kernel. If you updated to JB, you'll reflash.
Flashing a ROM will always add the stock or modified by the ROM's Dev if they are capable back. Then you have to flash your preferred kernel again.
Just flash the crap out of it. Lol. That's what I did and that's how I learned. ODIN can save you. smile.gif

Okay, got ya. I am assuming you are talking about JB ROMs. So is there an estimate at when these will be stable? Will it be based on when an AT&T JB build is released, or something else?

So with kernel, does it do anything other than unlocking the ability to OC and undervolt?

Last thing, I haven't used ODIN yet. What can it do that CWM can't? I always just use CWM for restores.

Thanks again man, you are a huge help.

NP.

Once JB source is out, they can base it off that for a more stable ROM. No time frame, just how fast they work. They do it for free so I'm just appreciative of all the work they do. Just don't ask on XDA, that's one of the rules. Lol.

Kernel, does other little tricks. If you look around for faux123's work, he has a diagram and explains kernels.
ODIN is a .exe for Windows. It's a flashing tool, it can fully restore back to stock. Overwrites CWM and all.
I recommend getting TWRP recovery. Most Devs support TWRP over CWM. Better features, easier to use.

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Android (like many other Smartphone operating systems) runs on the Linux kernel. The Linux kernel was created in the early 1990’s by a gentleman named Linus Torvalds in Helsinki Finland. It’s incredibly stable, incredibly friendly, and incredibly difficult for the layman to understand and modify. Thankfully it’s also very popular so it has been ported on to a multitude of hardware, including our Android devices.
Think of the kernel as an interface layer between the hardware and software on your device. The kernel decides when things happen, such as the LED indicator gets lit. An application sends a request to the operating system to blink the LED. The operating system then sends the request to the kernel, which makes the light flash for the amount of time requested by the OS.
What sounds like a round-about way to get things done is also what makes the system so scalable and robust. Application developers only have to code in a way the operating system understands and the kernel makes it work on the hardware. This also keeps the application running in it’s own user-space and separate from the kernel. That means when you run the latest uber-cool app that wasn’t designed for your particular OS version, or is still very beta and it crashes, the kernel gives you the option to Force Close the application and the kernel can run untouched.
In a standard Android ROM (we will leave developer images and the like for another discussion) the kernel is bundled along with a set of instructions that tell the device how to load the kernel and the OS during boot. This is the boot.img that you see inside a zipped ROM that you're not able to easily open. The device knows to extract this image to internal memory (the ramdisk) and follow a series of scripts (init scripts) to load the kernel and then the other portions of the OS. That’s what’s happening while you’re watching the boot animation. Interestingly enough this is done the same way for a PC, your smartphone, an Android tablet, or even a smart Linux powered toaster. If you’re feeling exceptionally geeky, plug your Android phone into the USB port on your PC and let the PC boot from the USB device. No, it doesn’t actually load, but you can watch the animation while it tries to match up the hardware support with what’s inside your PC. As I said, Linux is amazingly scalable and as a result so is Android.

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@ bigal

Don't be so scared away simply because something is not stated as a "final stable" release. I have been using ktoonsez kernel for quite awhile now and I have not experienced any issues since the late Aug. release which had a minor bug. I'm undervolted -100mv from stock volts and has been completely stable. No random reboots, no crashes, etc. Undervolting doesn't increase battery life by a ton, but it doesn't make it worse either.

I have also used two different JB ROM's, neither of which had any noticeable bugs which would stray me away from using it.. so while they may not be marketed as "final stable release", doesn't mean they should be avoided. I think the only bug that my previous JB ROM had that I noticed was the charging LED wasn't on when it was charging.. like oh well, no big deal. I'm never going back to ICS, I prefer JB after using them. thumb.gif
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I got too scared off from buying the iphone 5 so I just got a S3 from sprint. They had a nice deal on another website. Hopefully I made the right choice. Is the american verison that bad?

Either way it should be a huge upgrade from my trusty lg rumor touch that I had for several years.
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tmobile had this magenta deal last week, they are selling everything for free after rebate, so i bought two galaxy s3
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NP.
Once JB source is out, they can base it off that for a more stable ROM. No time frame, just how fast they work. They do it for free so I'm just appreciative of all the work they do. Just don't ask on XDA, that's one of the rules. Lol.
Kernel, does other little tricks. If you look around for faux123's work, he has a diagram and explains kernels.
ODIN is a .exe for Windows. It's a flashing tool, it can fully restore back to stock. Overwrites CWM and all.
I recommend getting TWRP recovery. Most Devs support TWRP over CWM. Better features, easier to use.
Or this:
Any time. I'm just waiting for you to send me a GTX670. wink.gif

Thanks for the heads up, I'll make sure not to ask over there.

So I am still confused, so the only time you would use ODIN is to completely reset your phone to out of the box settings? Will I ever need to do this again? I guess I'm trying to ask, how will I know if I need to use ODIN? Right now I am just using CWM for all the flashing and stuff.

As for TWRP... I currently have CWM, so how would I change to TWRP? It looks pretty cool. Does it do the exact same thing? Also, what the hell is a nandoid backup? I thought only CWM could do it. Is it just the term used for any backup or what?

Thanks!

Oh and if I ever get some extra cash, who knows tongue.gif
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@ bigal
Don't be so scared away simply because something is not stated as a "final stable" release. I have been using ktoonsez kernel for quite awhile now and I have not experienced any issues since the late Aug. release which had a minor bug. I'm undervolted -100mv from stock volts and has been completely stable. No random reboots, no crashes, etc. Undervolting doesn't increase battery life by a ton, but it doesn't make it worse either.
I have also used two different JB ROM's, neither of which had any noticeable bugs which would stray me away from using it.. so while they may not be marketed as "final stable release", doesn't mean they should be avoided. I think the only bug that my previous JB ROM had that I noticed was the charging LED wasn't on when it was charging.. like oh well, no big deal. I'm never going back to ICS, I prefer JB after using them. thumb.gif

Well, you just opened up a whole new can of worms. So for ktoonsez... The only undervolting I have done is for laptops to produce less heat. Is there any advantage for a phone? You said battery life is minimal, so why would you go through the work of flashing a new kernel?

I could care less about the lights haha, as of right now, I just view them as something that burns the battery that isn't needed. What JB roms have you tried? I am getting to the point where I really want to get going with a ton of flashes (as both you and chris have said to do), and think it would be fun to throw some JB ones in.

If I do switch to a JB rom, is there anything else I need to change that would be different than flashing ICS roms? I remember someone saying that I can't use titanium backup. Can I use Titanium Backup for contacts and SMS stuff or is that a no no too?
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I got too scared off from buying the iphone 5 so I just got a S3 from sprint. They had a nice deal on another website. Hopefully I made the right choice. Is the american verison that bad?
Either way it should be a huge upgrade from my trusty lg rumor touch that I had for several years.

I have been a long time iOS user (the first one, a 3, a 3gs, and a 4) and have absolutely no regrets about switching. I'll warn you there is a ton of stuff to learn, but it has been so much fun so far.
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^ A nandroid backup is like a copy of your phone at it's current state. It copies all application data, applications, way your homescreens are, settings, etc and saves it so you can restore it at a later date.

I've tried ParanoidAndroid and I'm currently running Codename Android. They both, have been very awesome and like I said the only issue that I myself have ran into was the LED charging indicator on PA, which was not a problem. I've had no crashes, random reboots, etc that would cause me to get a different ROM. I really liked Paranoid Android, and the only reason that I switched to Codename Android was because someone suggested it in this thread because of the battery life.

Flashing a kernel has it's advantages besides just the minimal battery life gain from undervolting. The kernel itself could prove to be better on battery than another. The undervolting is just taking it a step further to increase the battery life.. and took me a whole 5 seconds to change, and has been stable since. I first started at -150mv for all frequency levels.. it crashed soon after, then tried -125mv, same thing, and -100mv seems to be the sweet spot for my phone. YMMV. Not to mention the 2.1GHz OC looks sick. rolleyes.gif

If you want to switch to a JB ROM, just nandroid your current setup and flash away - don't bother backing anything up unless it's text messages that you want to transfer over, because like it's been said before titanium backup restores might not work out too well. thumb.gif
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