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considering that more than 90% of pc games are pirated, i shudder to think how many pc games are being consumed

proof.gif what statistics say that?
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So true or not? People who pirate PC video games never would have bought them legit in the first place.

I don't know. I admittedly did when I was a teen, but once I got a job both in college, and after, I am now able to afford to pay legitly for every game I want to play. I doubt I am just the only one who is in my boat. Sometimes it might just be an affordability issue. wink.gif
 
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PC gaming is better because we spend thousands of dollars for the gaming experience. Gaming PCs aren't cheap and even if you went cheap and built a $500 machine, you'll still need to buy a new one at some point, eventually exceeding that $1000 mark.

I'm glad PC gaming is growing, but it's expensive in the short and long run. Consoles will always have the price advantage.
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I was going to bring up this point. On top of that, let's just look at some rather simple math.
Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million copies on launch day. $60 was the cheapest you could get it. Last time I checked that is $210 million, and remember, that is only launch day sales. The PC market in 2011 was estimated at over $18 billion worldwide. NPD numbers are always awful. I really wish sites would stop created articles based on their info. Even if their numbers were physical copies only in the US, it still doesn't make sense.

How are NPD numbers awful? It's the most reliable sales numbers you will ever see for US retail game sales.

And like I said earlier in the thread NPD does now release a quarterly DD report. Info is mostly only availble to subscribers.
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How are NPD numbers awful? It's the most reliable sales numbers you will ever see for US retail game sales.
And like I said earlier in the thread NPD does now release a quarterly DD report. Info is mostly only availble to subscribers.

It can be argued its reliable at showing a certain portion of sales.

Awful for actually painting a true overall picture of media in modern times, given that an ever growing chunk of the pictures are missing every time.
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It can be argued its reliable at showing a certain portion of sales.
Awful for actually painting a true overall picture of media in modern times, given that an ever growing chunk of the pictures are missing every time.

No it really can't be argued. NPD is the most reliable sales data agency in the United States.

Past that they do release a quarterly DD report to subscribers so it's not really missing anything. And past that it really is not their fault that Steam and the like won't release numbers publicly.
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No it really can't be argued. NPD is the most reliable sales data agency in the United States.
Past that they do release a quarterly DD report to subscribers so it's not really missing anything. And past that it really is not their fault that Steam and the like won't release numbers publicly.

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If your are disagreeing with me that it can be argued that the NPD is reliable, then your argument that the NPD is reliable is impossible lol tongue.gif

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Most reliable != reliable (depending on who you are and your needs). White is less black than grey, but that doesn't make grey black.

As it stands, they may be reliable for reporting on what they can report on, but in terms of an overall picture, having large chunks of relevant data missing isn't something you can just gloss over, especially if accuracy and reliability is something you wish to tout as your strong point.

Releasing a quarterly DD report that doesn't include the largest players in the industry is barely worth mentioning.
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If your are disagreeing with me that it can be argued that the NPD is reliable, then your argument that the NPD is reliable is impossible lol tongue.gif
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Most reliable != reliable (depending on who you are and your needs). White is less black than grey, but that doesn't make grey black.
As it stands, they may be reliable for reporting on what they can report on, but in terms of an overall picture, having large chunks of relevant data missing isn't something you can just gloss over, especially if accuracy and reliability is something you wish to tout as your strong point.
Releasing a quarterly DD report that doesn't include the largest players in the industry is barely worth mentioning.

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If your are disagreeing with me that it can be argued that the NPD is reliable, then your argument that the NPD is reliable is impossible lol tongue.gif
2.
Most reliable != reliable (depending on who you are and your needs). White is less black than grey, but that doesn't make grey black.
As it stands, they may be reliable for reporting on what they can report on, but in terms of an overall picture, having large chunks of relevant data missing isn't something you can just gloss over, especially if accuracy and reliability is something you wish to tout as your strong point.
Releasing a quarterly DD report that doesn't include the largest players in the industry is barely worth mentioning.

I work for a company that sees the full reports and again NPD is the most reliable source of retail and digital sales information in the United States. No one questions this and I'm not really sure why you are trying to make a point about it. As far as the PC market specifically goes even now retail sales are a higher percentage of total sales then digital is so it's very relevant data even if you want to make the argument that because Steam is not counted it's somehow not accurate. For a long time NPD didn't have access to Wal-Mart data and no one questioned the accuracy of the results. You're a good poster dude and I don't really understand why your going all tin foil hat on this.

Understand that many of the numbers NPD comes up with for the digital report are straight from publishers. In many ways you could argue it's more accurate then retail numbers simply because there is no possible way to count all retail sales and you have to extrapolate.
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Hope it keeps going. as some mentioned its prbly due to old consoles dying. But i also think that people are finding it easier to build PCs with all the help available, and its also probably becoming more evident to them that its more cost effective to have one than pay 60 bucks for console games
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