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Need quiet fan opinions with decent air flow. I'm using a 140mm Spectre Pro (white) for exhaust, which I got mainly because it looks so good and was supposed to be quiet. Problem is, it's not quiet at anything but low RPM, so I'm considering replacing it. I'd like to stick to a white fan theme if possible, so my contenders are the regular, non-pro 140mm white Spectre fan and a 140mm white Phanteks fan. After that, I'd be moving on to Corsair AF140 or lastly Noctua NF-P14 FLX, which are non-white... Ignoring prices (I can find most on decent sales), any good experience with any of those in this case?

Silentpcreview have reviewed the Phanteks PH-TC14PE Dual Fan CPU Heatsink recently and they also took a detailed look at the fan:
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The stock fans are among the best 14 cm models we've encountered. At 9V (1050 RPM) and above, they were whiny as most fans tend to be, but they had a very nice smooth sound at lower levels. There was no audible tonality or bearing chatter, even at close proximity, which is incredibly rare in our experience.

I have the white 140 mm Phanteks fan in my arctic white Prodigy. I had posted some photos in this thread earlier.
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Thank you. I'd read that review, which is why those fans are on my list of possible replacements, but the fact that they were called "whiny" at 9V+ made me worry. Whiny fans < strong air rush sounding fans. I've read lots of AF140 reviews saying how quiet those fans are even at full speed, and I've had pretty good luck with 3 of my different 120mm Noctua fans - I just dislike the color theme (as silly as it sounds, but I do have a window modded, so there's a method to the madness).
   
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I dislike the colors of Noctua fans, too. For my understanding the review just says that they are as whiny as a good 140 mm fan will be above 1000 rpm but not that they are becoming loud. If you skip to the conclusion of the review you will even find that SPCR would find the Phanteks CPU cooler to be on par with the 14 cm Noctua cooler but that SPCR would favor the Phanteks CPU cooler just because of the fans being even better than Noctua's.
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How are your 2 fans? I realize they are blowing through fins and such, so they could be louder, but do you hear much from them at higher RPM? I've got my Prodigy on my desk, and after my noisy PSU issue, I feel extra sensitive to random noises, so just trying to make everything quiet now.
   
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I have been testing and using a bunch of different fans, coolers and cases to make PCs silent over the past 10 years. I have also been active both as a forum user and online editor for that matter. Especially when I used to be a college student and worked and slept in the same room my systems had to be dead silent. So I believe I know to tell the difference between a good fan from a bad fan pretty well.

That never ending "problem" to build the perfect silent PC went somewhat away and I also do not try to convince anybody of my findings anymore because they do not reflect 100% measurable facts. Noise, basically loudness and frequencies, is a matter of opinion and like no CPU overclocks in the same way as the other no fan will sound exactly the same as the other. My opinion is that the Phanteks 140 mm fans are a good match for the Prodigy and my three samples fully meet or exceed my expectations. I have to mention that I use the PWM adapter that came with the CPU cooler so that I can control the speed of the fans with the mainboard:

idle 600 rpm (dead silent)
gaming 800 - 900 rpm (moving air)
benching 1000 - 1200 rpm (typical whine)
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I have been testing and using a bunch of different fans, coolers and cases to make PCs silent over the past 10 years. I have also been active both as a forum user and online editor for that matter. Especially when I used to be a college student and worked and slept in the same room my systems had to be dead silent. So I believe I know to tell the difference between a good fan from a bad fan pretty well.
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idle 600 rpm (dead silent)
gaming 800 - 900 rpm (moving air)
benching 1000 - 1200 rpm (typical whine)

Thank you - all interesting info. Have you tried Noctua's 140mm fans then to compare? Or the new corsair Quiet edition fans?
   
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Like I said I hate Noctua for chosing these colors and back then I even contacted them about it. They said that the colors are part of their marketing concept and that they would be reluctant to offer black editions. I believe they have some of the best fans and coolers in the market and I would be more than interested in their products for that matter but I decided to look elsewhere as long as they will stick to their plan. So no, I can't express my opinion on their fans and I did not happen to look at the Corsair Quiet Edition fans so far.

If I were you I would not worry too much. I understand that the Silverstone PSU gave you a hard time. The only way to make such a bugger surrender is to open the PSU and swap the fan. Doing so comes with some risk and you void your warranty but you will have the fan of your choice and you could even hook it up to a fan controller if you do it right. However we are now talking about a basic case fan which makes it way easier to control the fan speed. So why don't you just pick the fan that you find visually appealing and run it between 600 rpm and 800 rpm? I can't imagine that you will go wrong with that.
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Like I said I hate Noctua for chosing these colors and back then I even contacted them about it. They said that the colors are part of their marketing concept and that they would be reluctant to offer black editions. I believe they have some of the best fans and coolers in the market and I would be more than interested in their products for that matter but I decided to look elsewhere as long as they will stick to their plan. So no, I can't express my opinion on their fans and I did not happen to look at the Corsair Quiet Edition fans so far.
If I were you I would not worry too much. I understand that the Silverstone PSU gave you a hard time. The only way to make such a bugger surrender is to open the PSU and swap the fan. Doing so comes with some risk and you void your warranty but you will have the fan of your choice and you could even hook it up to a fan controller if you do it right. However we are now talking about a basic case fan which makes it way easier to control the fan speed. So why don't you just pick the fan that you find visually appealing and run it between 600 rpm and 800 rpm? I can't imagine that you will go wrong with that.

Yeah, I'm considering getting a BitFenix Recon fan controller. My problem is with my motherboard (ASRock mITX), and I've asked this question on the ASRock Z77 club thread, but no useful replies yet. Basically no matter what fan profile I set, all the fans end up rotating at max RPM around 60C CPU temperature (pwm and non-pwm). Even if I do target speed level 1 (lowest) at target CPU temperature of 65C. I have one Noctua low-noise adapter which I'm using with my CPU cooler Zalman fan (noisy thing, but silent with the adapter and running at 750rpm now) and that's about it. Both of my case fans end up going to full when I enter a game and play for a while. I guess I could try some software solutions, but since my case fans are not PWM, I'm not sure how successful I will be.

P.S.: My case fans (2) are hooked up to one fan socket at the moment with a noctua PWM fan splitter.
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If you like the look of your current fans you might want to get the fan controller first and try it out. Maybe you are almost there.
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If you like the look of your current fans you might want to get the fan controller first and try it out. Maybe you are almost there.

I am, although at the current RPM, there's not that much air movement from front to back. Higher RPM - noisier fan. I know I'll be happy with Noctuas, just hate the color scheme for a full white/silver/black build. By the way, major props to ASUS DC2 coolers - so so quiet.
   
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