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post #4461 of 11740
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Originally Posted by TeamBlue View Post

Not to AMD bash, but why not grab up a cheapo h77 board for a hundred bucks and a i3 3220 for 130? If you're on a tighter budget than that get a h61 if you don't have a solid state drive (only has SATA 3Gb/s) or h67 board for 75 bucks, toss in a i3 2100 for $120 and you're done. That leaves you plenty of room to add in a GPU later if you find yourself playing more games, I can personally recommend a HD7770 for 1080p resolution, you can get one of those for around a hundred as well. Twenty different people will recommend twenty different GPU's, so find one you like and go with it.

Seeing how it's your first build, some things to avoid: Ivy Bridge processor with anything but a 7 series intel chipset. It will work, but usually needs a BIOS update first. If you don't have a spare ivy bridge processor laying around, you'll find it mostly impossible to update BIOS. Another thing: stay away from ebay processors. If you don't buy it directly from the retailer, you don't have warranty from intel. Lastly, take your time, order all your components in one shot, test it within the return period in case you get some DOA goodness, and have fun. Be warned, it's addictive!

Honestly, if he really wants, he could do an Intel OR AMD build on the cheap... but doing an AMD build will get him a faster CPU for less and AMD still stands behind their products. I have never had a problem with my AMD stuff in the past. As long as he, or anyone really, does their research, and doesn't buy stuff just cause it's cheap, then they'll be fine. I usually buy all my stuff from Newegg (shameless plug, whatever) and haven't had a bad experience with them.

But yes, TeamBlue is right in the sense that you need to be careful where you buy stuff, if you do your shopping online. And, also that every single person is going to have their own opinions about things, but just do your research as I suggested, and you'll find what you really want.
post #4462 of 11740
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Originally Posted by Pestilaence View Post

Haha, so this is what it's like to have someone interested in you. XP Yeah, I just ordered a motherboard last night, after contemplating a few different ones for the last month or so. I finally decided on this one since it was suggested ..

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Socket-PCI-E-Motherboard-FM2-A75IA-E53/dp/B00A2VJIQE/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1

That one has been discontinued though, but there should be one left on Amazon (since there were two, and I ordered one). From what I've seen though, it's getting good overall reviews, plus it has everything that I've been wanting. It supports up to 16GB of RAM, has built in WiFi (one thing that I didn't really want to give up, moving from my current mid-tower build to a mini-itx), the new UEFI BIOS, ability to easily overclock, and Bluetooth, though I doubt I'll use that
As far as CPU's, I plan on getting this one..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

It's the fastest stock quad-core CPU that I can find. Plus, it's not $300 (USD), when compared to something similar from Intel. The main thing that I wanted with this build is to do something that isn't going to cost me my first-born child as a sacrifice, lol. My current build has a dual-core 4.2ghz AMD CPU... so I needed to stick with something kinda quick, and not expensive.
I really want to be able to OC the new build though, so I plan on getting the Corsair H60 to water cool the CPU and help keep temps down. I do however, already have a Spectre 230mm fan up front, the two stock case fans up top, then I'll be putting the H60 in the back.
Once I get some more money, I'll be ordering the CPU, and some RAM. I think once I get that, I'll start tossing stuff together, and using the rest of the parts needed from my current build, until I can afford to upgrade them.
Things on the list to eventually upgrade after I do buy the CPU and RAM;

- New harddrive, perhaps some SSD's (I currently have an IATA... sad, I know, but it works.) However, my fan controller uses the standard IATA/SATA power plug, so if I go with some SSD's, how would I power the controller?
- New graphics card (to replace my GT430). I'm not quite sure what I'm going to get here.
- Perhaps a full open-loop water cooling system down the road

Let me know what you guys think.

I'm not stalking, I promise! biggrin.gif

Those are the self-same components I was looking at getting if I was going to do an AMD build. I did look at the ASRock FM2 mobo, but after one chap on Amazon said his VRMs were getting ridiculously hot while gaming I kind of had second thoughts! Plus, like you said, having wi-fi built in is very handy.

It's been really interesting seeing everyone's cooling setups as it's not something I'd considered before. I'm interested to see how cool it stays with the standard case fans and CPU cooler for now! biggrin.gif

I also like the fact that the GPU in the AMD APU is pretty 'beefy' in it's own right; apparently it can run Batman: Arkham City on Medium settings at 30-40fps! I'm just looking for a basic system to get me started and then work my way up as necessary. With only £500 to spend, I've got to be pretty strict and I couldn't get an Intel system I was satisfied with for that amount.
post #4463 of 11740
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Originally Posted by BigMrE View Post

I'm not stalking, I promise! biggrin.gif

Those are the self-same components I was looking at getting if I was going to do an AMD build. I did look at the ASRock FM2 mobo, but after one chap on Amazon said his VRMs were getting ridiculously hot while gaming I kind of had second thoughts! Plus, like you said, having wi-fi built in is very handy.

It's been really interesting seeing everyone's cooling setups as it's not something I'd considered before. I'm interested to see how cool it stays with the standard case fans and CPU cooler for now! biggrin.gif

I also like the fact that the GPU in the AMD APU is pretty 'beefy' in it's own right; apparently it can run Batman: Arkham City on Medium settings at 30-40fps! I'm just looking for a basic system to get me started and then work my way up as necessary. With only £500 to spend, I've got to be pretty strict and I couldn't get an Intel system I was satisfied with for that amount.

Yeah, until I had found this thread, I wasn't sure what all I was going to get. I had planned on getting the Corsair C70 case for quite some time, then I found the Prodigy, and this thread, and haven't turned back since. I also wouldn't have thought that you could pack so much "computer" into such an awesome and small case. I figured something small like the Prodigy would REALLY limit what you could do, but from seeing other people's builds, I've really learned some interesting things. I wouldn't really have thought about water cooling as such an inexpensive or viable option, until after seeing it used here so much. Just to give you an idea... a decent to good fan-mounted CPU cooler is about 70+ bucks. You can get the Corsair H60 for 60 bucks, or even less if it's on sale! So, better cooling, and less expensive...
Edited by Pestilaence - 1/22/13 at 7:10am
post #4464 of 11740
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Originally Posted by TeamBlue View Post

Not to AMD bash, but why not grab up a cheapo h77 board for a hundred bucks and a i3 3220 for 130? If you're on a tighter budget than that get a h61 if you don't have a solid state drive (only has SATA 3Gb/s) or h67 board for 75 bucks, toss in a i3 2100 for $120 and you're done. That leaves you plenty of room to add in a GPU later if you find yourself playing more games, I can personally recommend a HD7770 for 1080p resolution, you can get one of those for around a hundred as well. Twenty different people will recommend twenty different GPU's, so find one you like and go with it.

Seeing how it's your first build, some things to avoid: Ivy Bridge processor with anything but a 7 series intel chipset. It will work, but usually needs a BIOS update first. If you don't have a spare ivy bridge processor laying around, you'll find it mostly impossible to update BIOS. Another thing: stay away from ebay processors. If you don't buy it directly from the retailer, you don't have warranty from intel. Lastly, take your time, order all your components in one shot, test it within the return period in case you get some DOA goodness, and have fun. Be warned, it's addictive!

Thanks for the reply.

Yeah I did look at an Asus H77 with an i3, I just couldn't get it under my target with the other parts that I wanted.

Not sure what to do on the GPU front. At absolute best, I'll be playing 1080p. I used to have a laptop with a 1st-gen Core i5 and an nVidia GT420M in it and that could play most stuff, even like Crysis 2 at 1366x768 reasonably well. The GPU is the only thing I'm really unsure about.

I was planning to get them all in one go, so that's good. Thanks for the heads-up about eBay too! thumb.gif
Edited by BigMrE - 1/22/13 at 7:21am
post #4465 of 11740
OK, if I'm going to pursue the AMD route, what's the better option:

combine the APU's 7660D with a 6670 and get some kind of 'Crossfire' thing going, or...

ditch the APU's GPU and get a standalone 7770/7850?

Aaargh.

Sorry if I'm going off-topic... just to clarify, this will be going in a Prodigy case biggrin.gif
post #4466 of 11740
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Originally Posted by BigMrE View Post

OK, if I'm going to pursue the AMD route, what's the better option:

combine the APU's 7660D with a 6670 and get some kind of 'Crossfire' thing going, or...

ditch the APU's GPU and get a standalone 7770/7850?

Aaargh.

Sorry if I'm going off-topic... just to clarify, this will be going in a Prodigy case biggrin.gif

See, that's kinda what I was wondering. I've seen a review from a Newegg tech dude that quickly went over that feature on the boards that have it... it does apparently help quite a bit, when paired with an AMD GPU... however, I've typically gone with Nvidia stuff... so I would be curious if going with a matched GPU would be worth it, and would also be curious which ones ACTUALLY work together.
post #4467 of 11740
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Originally Posted by Pestilaence View Post

See, that's kinda what I was wondering. I've seen a review from a Newegg tech dude that quickly went over that feature on the boards that have it... it does apparently help quite a bit, when paired with an AMD GPU... however, I've typically gone with Nvidia stuff... so I would be curious if going with a matched GPU would be worth it, and would also be curious which ones ACTUALLY work together.

Check out these two links:

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/46157-amd-a10-5800k-dual-graphics-evaluation/

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/dual-graphics/Pages/dual-graphics.aspx#3

Hope that helps.
post #4468 of 11740
It's a bit OCD, but I just can't bring myself to pair an nVidia card with an AMD processor, lol. It metaphorically sets my teeth on edge biggrin.gif

Plus surely if the same company are making the CPU and GPU there's got to be benefits? Or am I sounding like an Apple fanboy now?... biggrin.gif
post #4469 of 11740
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Originally Posted by BigMrE View Post

It's a bit OCD, but I just can't bring myself to pair an nVidia card with an AMD processor, lol. It metaphorically sets my teeth on edge biggrin.gif

Plus surely if the same company are making the CPU and GPU there's got to be benefits? Or am I sounding like an Apple fanboy now?... biggrin.gif

lol Apple fanboy... "One of us, one of us, one of us." Hahaha, yeah, after reading that, it seems like the 6670 might be the way to go. It seems to help in some cases, vs a standalone card of the same or higher quality.
post #4470 of 11740
So yeah, the HD6670 is what I'm gonna shoot for. I'll just need to get the proper drivers to mate the two and use them together.
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