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3570 77W
670 GPU 173W
Mobo/RAM 35W
SSD up to about 5W (depending on model)
HDD 10W
Fans 4x5W

320W maxed out...well under 80% load on a 450W PSU...

Unless you are running a ton of fans and HDDs, an 1155 Intel system without a GPU shouldn't need more than a 160w PicoPSU.
Edited by longroadtrip - 3/25/13 at 12:34pm
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Is the 230mm running at full speed? If so, I would move the H60 to the top of the case as intake and add a rear 120mm/140mm as an exhaust (whichever will fit) You are OCing, so your case will always have higher temps than if you weren't...you may also need to look at a more efficient type of cooling (H80-100, custom loop, etc...)

No, running with the low noise adapter. But when the GPU spins up won't that be plenty of intake?

Anyway, with the bluray drive I don't think the H60 would sit up top - 120mm fan won't fit up there
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3570 77W
670 GPU 173W
Mobo/RAM 35W
SSD up to about 5W (depending on model)
HDD 10W
Fans 4x5W

320W maxed out...well under 80% load on a 450W PSU...

Unless you are running a ton of fans and HDDs, an 1155 Intel system without a GPU shouldn't need more than a 160w PicoPSU.

Alright, I have a 330watt psu here, you think that you can run that rig on it? thumb.gif If so I'll send it to you and expect vids back.

Things aren't perfectly efficient. Their rated wattage is never reliable, which is why psu calcs are an imperfect science.
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No, running with the low noise adapter. But when the GPU spins up won't that be plenty of intake?

Anyway, with the bluray drive I don't think the H60 would sit up top - 120mm fan won't fit up there

Get creative. You can fit 2 120mm fans on top of the case so you can keep you BluRay. Or you can drill out the rivets for the front panel\, flip it around and have the blray sit on the bottom so there is no loss of space at all. Think outside the Prodigy wink.gif
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Sniper...no offense, but you are talking to a guy who specializes in low wattage builds...I've engineered and built more systems with PicoPSUs than most people will ever build in a lifetime. I just delivered 80 to a client less than a week ago.

All of those specs I listed are on the upper end of their wattage ratings, unless EVERYTHING is running at 100% capacity, you will never see those ratings.

For the record, I'll be more than happy to post a video but with one of my PSUs......buying a new 670 on Friday (payday) so that'll work...
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No, running with the low noise adapter. But when the GPU spins up won't that be plenty of intake?

Anyway, with the bluray drive I don't think the H60 would sit up top - 120mm fan won't fit up there

Your 230mm fan isn't running at full speed then...you have it under-volted. Remove the adapter and set up a fan profile with your mobo software .thumb.gif
Edited by longroadtrip - 3/25/13 at 1:27pm
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If temps are okay there isn't a need to change your current setup. Getting creative is good but if you are hesitant for any type of modding you probably shouldn't do it without more research.
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Sniper...no offense, but you are talking to a guy who specializes in low wattage builds...I've engineered and built more systems with PicoPSUs than most people will ever build in a lifetime. I just delivered 80 to a client less than a week ago.

All of those specs I listed are on the upper end of their wattage ratings, unless EVERYTHING is running at 100% capacity, you will never see those ratings.

For the record, I'll be more than happy to post a video but with one of my PSUs......buying a new 670 on Friday (payday) so that'll work...
Your 230mm fan isn't running at full speed then...you have it under-volted. Remove the adapter and set up a fan profile with your mobo software .thumb.gif

Alright alright, I always suggest going over the needed, but I'll let cha lead. My "suggested 700 watt psu" didn't cut it in my main rig before, hence my experience.
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Thanks for the advice on psu wattage, i'll probably play it safe and go overkill but if corsair did say a tx 450m then i would consider it.

My main rig has a ax850 which is overkill but is a awesome psu and gives me peace of mind. Btw why do manufacturers recommend a xxxwatt psu if its not needed?

My other question, is a bronze rated psu good enough for my needs or should i find a gold rated?
Edited by RyReZar - 3/25/13 at 3:35pm
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Alright alright, I always suggest going over the needed, but I'll let cha lead. My "suggested 700 watt psu" didn't cut it in my main rig before, hence my experience.

thumb.gif I certainly wouldn't disagree with that, it is a good idea for enthusiasts like us to have more power than needed (otherwise we'd be swapping out PSUs every time we rebuilt a system,) but I recommend that people actually calculate the wattage they are going to need and then add their "safety wattage" to that. There are some great sites that list the real world power draw on just about every component...Techpowerup is one of them

I too used to believe that all these high wattage PSUs were necessary (even had an AX1200 running a P67 2600k w/dual 6970s setup,) but, it never drew more than 680W at the wall and averaged about 470W while gaming...to me, that was a major waste of money when I could easily accomplish the same thing with a 750 or an 850W PSU. Most PSUs run their most efficient at 80-100% of the rating and are designed to do so for as long as the warranty period. (Clarification...a decent brand PSU is designed for this.. IE Silverstone, Corsair, and Seasonic are what I have always used with zero issues)

In my Yin & Yang builds, I am running Silverstone Strider 550W and a 750W PSUs..why? Because that is what I had sitting on the shelf and didn't see the need to buy new PSUs, especially when 670s are $400...

Anyways...we are both after the same thing and want to help people build great systems...so if we agree or disagree, let's still be friends...thumb.gif

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Thanks for the advice on psu wattage, i'll probably play it safe and go overkill but if corsair did say a tx 450m then i would consider it.

My main rig has a ax850 which is overkill but is a awesome psu and gives me peace of mind. Btw why do manufacturers recommend a xxxwatt psu if its not needed?

My other question, is a bronze rated psu good enough for my needs or should i find a gold rated?

The AX850 is a great PSU...The main reason for overkill mfr recommends was because most PSUs (some still do) had multiple rails and it was a way to guarantee a certain wattage across those rails and across many different manufacturers...

The Bronze, Silver, Gold, & Platinum ratings are strictly about efficiency at load...a 750W Bronze rated PSU costs a little more money to operate than a Gold rated 750W PSU.
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I don't know if it's a good or accurate one, but this is the PSU calculator I use. I would pay for pro, but I am not allowed to spend next to any money (even if it's mine) unless it is giving it to my mom for food.
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Microsoft Mouse 1000 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X3440 Asus P7H55-M DP MSI GTX 770 Lightning 4GB 1333MHz ASint Technology 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
SanDisk SSD Plus 120GB Cooler Master TX3 Enough fans to keep it cool Currently Windows 7 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Soon to be Ubuntu 14.04 LTS again Dell IN2020M Teamviewer/Generic Bitfenix Fury 650G 
CaseMouse
Fractal Design Arc Mini Teamviewer/Generic 
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