Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Computer Cases › [Official] Bitfenix Prodigy & Phenom Owner's Club
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Official] Bitfenix Prodigy & Phenom Owner's Club - Page 650

post #6491 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonofJor-El View Post

I have the H100i and I am using 4 fans. The 2 that came with the h100i and 2 white Spectre fans. They are all on pull. The 2 inside the case push the hot air down while the front 230mm pushes it back. the 140mm rear fan exhausts it out. The 2 on top of my case pull hot air away up. Everyone does it different and its all a matter of preference. I hope that helps thumb.gif
Noted that! Thanks!
post #6492 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonofJor-El View Post

I have the H100i and I am using 4 fans. The 2 that came with the h100i and 2 white Spectre fans. They are all on pull. The 2 inside the case push the hot air down while the front 230mm pushes it back. the 140mm rear fan exhausts it out. The 2 on top of my case pull hot air away up. Everyone does it different and its all a matter of preference. I hope that helps thumb.gif

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it sounds like you have fans pulling on both sides of the rad. How do you get any airflow across the fins doing that?

I have 4 of the stock h100i fans on mine in push/pull as an intake and I had to change my front 200mm to an exhaust because they were pushing so much air right into the middle of the case. My thought was the same to push through the case and out the back but instead I'm getting much better temps doing intake through the rad alone. I actually managed to fit the whole setup inside the case so I can still keep the dust filter on the top installed.
Fenix ONE
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe Gigabyte GV979WF3-3GD G.SKILL F3-2400C10D-16GTX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 Seagate ST1000LM014 Corsair H100i Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VS247H-P Rosewill RK-9100I SilverStone ST65F-G BitFenix Prodigy 
Mouse
Razer Naga Epic 
  hide details  
Reply
Fenix ONE
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe Gigabyte GV979WF3-3GD G.SKILL F3-2400C10D-16GTX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 Seagate ST1000LM014 Corsair H100i Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VS247H-P Rosewill RK-9100I SilverStone ST65F-G BitFenix Prodigy 
Mouse
Razer Naga Epic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6493 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by zephead99 View Post

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it sounds like you have fans pulling on both sides of the rad. How do you get any airflow across the fins doing that?

I have 4 of the stock h100i fans on mine in push/pull as an intake and I had to change my front 200mm to an exhaust because they were pushing so much air right into the middle of the case. My thought was the same to push through the case and out the back but instead I'm getting much better temps doing intake through the rad alone. I actually managed to fit the whole setup inside the case so I can still keep the dust filter on the top installed.

hmm good qestion, maybe its a miss spell biggrin.gif
Red Hyper
(9 items)
 
Snow White
(10 items)
 
Black Snake
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k PZ77-i deluxe GTX 680 16gb Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120gb OCZ Agility Custom Watercooling W7 3x 27" Acer  
PowerCase
OCZ 800 watt gold  Bitfenix Prodigy White 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500k ASUS P8Z77-I Gainward Geforce GTX 680 Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
OCZ agility 3 120 gb Western digital 1 tb Green Corsair h100i Acer H274HL 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycrosa Corsair GS800 Bitfenix Prodigy black Razer Mamba 2012 editon 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Razer goliathus extended edition Steelseries h5v2 Bitfenis Spectre pro  
  hide details  
Reply
Red Hyper
(9 items)
 
Snow White
(10 items)
 
Black Snake
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500k PZ77-i deluxe GTX 680 16gb Corsair Vengeance 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
120gb OCZ Agility Custom Watercooling W7 3x 27" Acer  
PowerCase
OCZ 800 watt gold  Bitfenix Prodigy White 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500k ASUS P8Z77-I Gainward Geforce GTX 680 Corsair Vengeance 8gb 1600 mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingMonitor
OCZ agility 3 120 gb Western digital 1 tb Green Corsair h100i Acer H274HL 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Razer Lycrosa Corsair GS800 Bitfenix Prodigy black Razer Mamba 2012 editon 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Razer goliathus extended edition Steelseries h5v2 Bitfenis Spectre pro  
  hide details  
Reply
post #6494 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arturo.Zise View Post

I suppose I might be able to mount the fans pull/pull to clear the optical drive, and the rear fan would act as a rear exhaust up against the back panel. If it didn't work I could throw a H80i or a TT 2.0 or something in there I guess.

Is the Asus that much better than the AsRock? I'm on my 2nd type of AsRock board so far and they have been flawless for me in reliability an OC.

Bitfenix also sells a Prodigy window for $20 I believe.
Psychosis
(20 items)
 
FamilyHTPC
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 ASUS X79-DELUXE EVGA GTX 980 Classified EVGA GTX 980 Classified 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB Cooler Master Nepton 240mm Windows 7 Pro 64-bit ASUS VE248H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell IN2020M WASD CODE MX Clears BeQuiet PowerZone 850W Phanteks Enthoo Pro 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G700s $3 Walmart thing Logitech S120 + subwoofer Kingston HyperX Cloud II 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i3 3570K ASUS Z77-A MSI GTX 970 EVGA GTX 950 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G.SKILL Ares 4x4GB 1600MHz Orange SanDisk SSD Plus 120GB [OS] Western Digital Caviar Black 4TB (WD4003FZEX) [... Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair SP120 HP dual pack 4xCorsair AF120 QE Windows 7 Pro 64bit 55" LG 1080p TV 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
TeamViewer Microsoft Keyboard 800 Antec TruePower Quattro 850W Cooler Master HAF 932 
Mouse
Microsoft Mouse 1000 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X3440 Asus P7H55-M DP MSI GTX 770 Lightning 4GB 1333MHz ASint Technology 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
SanDisk SSD Plus 120GB Cooler Master TX3 Enough fans to keep it cool Currently Windows 7 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Soon to be Ubuntu 14.04 LTS again Dell IN2020M Teamviewer/Generic Bitfenix Fury 650G 
CaseMouse
Fractal Design Arc Mini Teamviewer/Generic 
  hide details  
Reply
Psychosis
(20 items)
 
FamilyHTPC
(17 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 ASUS X79-DELUXE EVGA GTX 980 Classified EVGA GTX 980 Classified 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 120GB Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB Cooler Master Nepton 240mm Windows 7 Pro 64-bit ASUS VE248H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Dell IN2020M WASD CODE MX Clears BeQuiet PowerZone 850W Phanteks Enthoo Pro 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G700s $3 Walmart thing Logitech S120 + subwoofer Kingston HyperX Cloud II 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i3 3570K ASUS Z77-A MSI GTX 970 EVGA GTX 950 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveCooling
G.SKILL Ares 4x4GB 1600MHz Orange SanDisk SSD Plus 120GB [OS] Western Digital Caviar Black 4TB (WD4003FZEX) [... Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Corsair SP120 HP dual pack 4xCorsair AF120 QE Windows 7 Pro 64bit 55" LG 1080p TV 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
TeamViewer Microsoft Keyboard 800 Antec TruePower Quattro 850W Cooler Master HAF 932 
Mouse
Microsoft Mouse 1000 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon X3440 Asus P7H55-M DP MSI GTX 770 Lightning 4GB 1333MHz ASint Technology 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
SanDisk SSD Plus 120GB Cooler Master TX3 Enough fans to keep it cool Currently Windows 7 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Soon to be Ubuntu 14.04 LTS again Dell IN2020M Teamviewer/Generic Bitfenix Fury 650G 
CaseMouse
Fractal Design Arc Mini Teamviewer/Generic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6495 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by sivoloc View Post

hmm good qestion, maybe its a miss spell biggrin.gif

As I stated. The front 230mm fan pushes the air through the case. I am pulling heat away from the rad on both sides. the rear 140mm fan is my exhaust. I surprisingly get good airflow and my system stay relatively cool
post #6496 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonofJor-El View Post

As I stated. The front 230mm fan pushes the air through the case. I am pulling heat away from the rad on both sides. the rear 140mm fan is my exhaust. I surprisingly get good airflow and my system stay relatively cool

I don't see how this could be working well, the concept behind a radiator is moving air through the fins to transfer heat. Pulling on both sides would just create low pressure in the radiator fins and with fans pulling against each other they're basically fighting each other's static pressure to draw air through the rad. This is also why push/pull works so well, the pulling fans create an area of lower pressure inside the radiator fans making it easier for the pushing fans to move air into and across the fins. You are probably getting away with this setup because the fans don't have an air tight seal so they're actually pulling air from the gaps between the fans and the radiator.

I'm not saying you aren't getting the temps you're saying, but I am saying physics says your setup would perform poorly. Heat isn't something that can't be transferred without a medium, in this case moving air.
Fenix ONE
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe Gigabyte GV979WF3-3GD G.SKILL F3-2400C10D-16GTX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 Seagate ST1000LM014 Corsair H100i Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VS247H-P Rosewill RK-9100I SilverStone ST65F-G BitFenix Prodigy 
Mouse
Razer Naga Epic 
  hide details  
Reply
Fenix ONE
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 3770K ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe Gigabyte GV979WF3-3GD G.SKILL F3-2400C10D-16GTX 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 Seagate ST1000LM014 Corsair H100i Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus VS247H-P Rosewill RK-9100I SilverStone ST65F-G BitFenix Prodigy 
Mouse
Razer Naga Epic 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6497 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by zephead99 View Post

I don't see how this could be working well, the concept behind a radiator is moving air through the fins to transfer heat. Pulling on both sides would just create low pressure in the radiator fins and with fans pulling against each other they're basically fighting each other's static pressure to draw air through the rad. This is also why push/pull works so well, the pulling fans create an area of lower pressure inside the radiator fans making it easier for the pushing fans to move air into and across the fins. You are probably getting away with this setup because the fans don't have an air tight seal so they're actually pulling air from the gaps between the fans and the radiator.

I'm not saying you aren't getting the temps you're saying, but I am saying physics says your setup would perform poorly. Heat isn't something that can't be transferred without a medium, in this case moving air.

I understand what you are saying. When I originally did the set-up, it was a trial and error. The first go round seemed to work so I left well enough alone. biggrin.gif
post #6498 of 11741
In no world (real or imaginary) does pull configurations on both sides of a rad work well. If it is working for you, it is by complete accident and is solely because of the efficiency of the radiator. What you are doing is basically the same thing as running a passive radiator. Change it to push/pull and it will cool much, much better.
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6499 of 11741
Quote:
Originally Posted by longroadtrip View Post

In no world (real or imaginary) does pull configurations on both sides of a rad work well. If it is working for you, it is by complete accident and is solely because of the efficiency of the radiator. What you are doing is basically the same thing as running a passive radiator. Change it to push/pull and it will cool much, much better.

Tell ya what. I will switch my top fans around and I will post the results after this weekend wink.gif
post #6500 of 11741
Tell ya what...post what you are doing in the OCN Water Cooling Club & Gallery and see how long it takes before people who've been water cooling for years to explain to you how thermal-dynamics works...
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
monsterITX
(13 items)
 
mPowered
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k EVGA Z87 Stinger Sapphire 290x EVGA  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 850 Evo Seagate Barracuda Seagate Barracuda Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 34UM65 EVGA Supernova 750G Case Labs Mercury S3 Logitech Performance MX 
Audio
Denon AVR-1913 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
4770k MSI MPower Max AC MSI GTX 780 Lightning MSI GTX 780 Lightning 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
GSkill Trident Samsung 850 Pro EVGA 1300 Watt Case Labs Mercury S8 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Computer Cases
Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Computer Cases › [Official] Bitfenix Prodigy & Phenom Owner's Club