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Originally Posted by JMatzelle303 View Post

The Bitfenix prodigy side window panel that I can purchase can the side panel be replaced if I want to do some mods to it?

You mean remove the plexiglass part itself? Yeah it looks to just be held in with bendable clips. Yeah I don't really want so much as have to mod mine. As in drill some damn air holes for my GPU to not overheat.

Kind of a fail not to include any ventilation IMO. I don't care if more expensive. Others have claimed they still get enough airflow but my setup surely does not.

Also, if the window were in the middle instead of more towards the top I could use it on the other side and show off my loop to boot instead of a relatively boring GPU (which would then have vent holes near using the stock side panel). But it just doesn't look right on that side and shows too much of the PSU.
Edited by wrigleyvillain - 5/23/13 at 1:34pm
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Hello again.

Been doing a little thinking. Did an analysis of my computing needs and wanted to bounce a few topics off of the fellow ITX board owners. ANd here I feel is a great place to ask since we all have an ITX case that fits all the bells and whistles inside without much of a hassle. I started this build solely for the looks of the Prodigy case and really nothing else. I have no need for a high end computer for work or gaming. I get by fine on this 2.1 ghz AMD sempron 2 gig ram 250 gig HDD. I'm not a gaming enthusiast even though I enjoy browsing the software manager for new little games to play from time to time. I only have a computer to pass the time. . . .web browsing, small low power games and the occasional DVD movie watch.

I chose to build a computer for a few reasons. First off, it's a new challenge to me. I have owned several desktops over the years, all which were constantly modified and upgraded to keep them as modern as possible. My first major hardware build up was on an old Apple PowerMac 9600/233. It replaced my PowerMac 7200, which offered less room for future expansion. That was a beast of a computer in it's time and it lived a long life well past it's prime. Before the board burned up, It was running a Sonnet G4, maxed out ram, 2 HDD's, USB PCI card, Firewire PCI card, Sound PCI card and a separate Graphics card. All of that was added at far more than the cost of a new PC tower, but I enjoyed keeping the old tower running. Always been a sucker for old computers even at the cost of lower productivity.

After my Prodigy build is complete, I will be retiring this bottom of the barrel laptop here. It's a Toshiba Satellite L455D. SIngle core sempron, 2 gig ram, 250 gig HDD, This computer won't play any decent FPS games without some seriously low frame rates, but I dont play thos type of games. I'm addicted to Super Tux Kart and thats the most powerful game I actively play. This computer, as slow as it is, plays the game at max settings without lag.

Just thinking out loud over here and hoping to get some feedback on the upcoming MOBO/CPU purchase. I've noticed an i3 is about half as much as an i5. We all know the i5 is the minimum processor that any PC builder will install in their computer. But I want to know how all you guys feel about an i3 for my Prodigy. It's almost $100 cheaper and its still double the power of what I have here. The i5 will last longer before it becomes outdated, but the i3 is still a tempting offer. I don;t plan on overclocking and don't have a need for such speed. Is it taboo to buy an i3 for this build? it's cheaper and still plenty of power for me.

I'd like to know what everyone here thinks about running an i3 in my Prodigy. Or do I just admit the i3 is fading technology and an i5 is the new low end standard. Should I buy the i3 or wait and save up an extra $100 and just go for the i5. i7's are completely out of the question. Remember that this is an ultra low buck build with no bells and whistles attached. Let me hear some opinions.
Zach

Currently, if I do build a rig in a Prodigy, it will be as a server and most likely contain an i3 3220. i3's have plenty of power, and the same goes for APUs. AMD is much easier to build with if on a tight budget but their selection of ITX boards are slimmer.


Either way, here is a cheap i3 build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3210 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($106.14 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B75M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.15 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($42.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $329.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-23 17:03 EDT-0400)


And here is a cheap AMD APU build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($98.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75IA-E53 Mini ITX FM2 Motherboard ($89.18 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($36.15 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 300W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $317.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-23 17:10 EDT-0400)


I left out ODD, OS, monitor, etc. for you to choose if you want to.
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I'm getting a 3770k for 75 bucks so there! Intel Retail Edge FTW!!

Cool story bro.
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post #7534 of 11743
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i was hoping someone will help me to plan the tubing

i came up with something like this but im afraid that rad → res part wont fit
- 90* fittings on pump
- 45* fittings on cpu block
- one 45* and one normal on rad



probably missed the proportions a bit

Have you considered using the inlet at the top of your reservoir? Might clean up tubing some.
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Cool story bro.

lol
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So, I'm thinking about watercooling my system. I currently have a 3570K and GTX 670 in there, but I'd like to upgrade it to a GTX 780. If I've got the 3570K and 780 on one loop (no other components under water), and planning on doing as much overclocking as it'll let me, I figure I ought to get two 240 rads, right? I saw that the Singularity build had two 240s, but he had to mod the case to get the front one to fit. Is there any way I can get two 240s to fit inside without having to cut the case? As an alternative, do you think I should go with a more conservative cooling option?
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So, I'm thinking about watercooling my system. I currently have a 3570K and GTX 670 in there, but I'd like to upgrade it to a GTX 780. If I've got the 3570K and 780 on one loop (no other components under water), and planning on doing as much overclocking as it'll let me, I figure I ought to get two 240 rads, right? I saw that the Singularity build had two 240s, but he had to mod the case to get the front one to fit. Is there any way I can get two 240s to fit inside without having to cut the case? As an alternative, do you think I should go with a more conservative cooling option?
Its not possible to get 2 240 rads in the case without modding it.
Edit: There are probably several options u can go for though.
240 rad in the top and a 120/140/180 rad in the front.
240 rad in the front and a 120 in top or maybe even in the back.
Edited by Lennyx - 5/23/13 at 5:52pm
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]OK, I'm back to ramble on again and make some more incoherent noise late at night. . .

First off I would like to say thank you to you guys for mentioning AMD. Been looking at AMD CPU's and Boards today and feel like I'm beginning to lean more that way. I've been using a single core Sempron here for some time now and that's really my only experience with AMD. . . but have been very happy with it. I hear AMD's make alot more heat than equal power Intel. Though with no overclocking planned, hotter temps shouldnt be a problem in the cavernous (for an itx case) prodigy and gives me a better reason to put one of those cool looking giant cpu coolers inside.

I have the white Prodigy with the solid front. I have moved the front mounted fan from the bottom inside to the top behind the DVD drive. With the mesh on top and fan vent in the rear, I plan to use the 2 factory fans strictly as exhaust. One blowing out the back and one blowing out the top. I feel the front panel doesn't have very good flow and I'm guessing most of the air intake will be through the vent holes on the case side panel. I have no experience in water cooling and still am too new to a ground up build to think about even one of those closed loop systems.

Another thought is about coolers. Any ideas on using one of those fanless coolers in there?
I have 2 fans right near each other and was wondering if they would make enough airflow around some large tower style cooler for a fanless cooler to work. I know the prodigy isn't the best to build as a complete fanless system. I'm just trying to not have more than 3 fans in this system,

Correct me if i'm wrong, but don't most dual slot cards exhaust out the back too? As in the fan blows the heat through the plastic duct work on the card and funnels it out the vents on the PCI slots rather than just blowing it off the GPU and venting in the case. If so, another plus to my ideas. Trying to keep all fans blowing out to try to avoid those circular fan shape dust build ups.

And can anyone tell me why the PSU is completely separate in this case. The fan mounts facing down, drawing in air from underneath, and just blows the PSU heat right out the back. What would happen if the motherboard bracket/PSU box were opened up and the PSU fan used as another exhaust? If it was mounted fan side up with a hole cut out under the mobo to pull some heat out off the bottom area of the case and motherboard. . . or is there a reason why the PSU is designed the way it is? I'm saying all this on speculation since my Prodigy isn't able to run yet.

And in my closing rants, I want to thank everyone building a Prodigy on this forum. Everyone's posts have been very helpful to me and can't wait to show off my rig when it's complete. . . .

Ok, thats all, goodnight.
Zach
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Idk much about fabless coolers but when it comes to the GPU's, you want reference cards with turbine fans for exhaust directly out the back. The rest will not exhaust out the back of the case. As for the PSU, it is easier to give the PSU it's own "Zone" as to provide it with cool air, a dust filter, and a large vent.
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Its not possible to get 2 240 rads in the case without modding it.
Edit: There are probably several options u can go for though.
240 rad in the top and a 120/140/180 rad in the front.
240 rad in the front and a 120 in top or maybe even in the back.

So 180 is this biggest you can go in front with a 240 on top?

What if I do a mod and do a 280 on top (as some others have done), shrouded and sticking out the top a little bit? What's the biggest 30mm I could then fit on the front? A 200? 240?
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