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Famich I do really envy your luck getting golden chips! biggrin.gif
Mine's need +68mv to get to 1300 core heaven stable redface.gif. At least I can reach 7000 on mems at +50mv, got 4 extra fps en heaven just with mem oc (1350pts vs 1225pts). Really surprised me how much of a performance increase mem oc represents in this card. I can settle down with 1300/7000 (was my goal when bought it), just wish I could achieve it without voltage tweaking so to avoid this nvidia/msi restriction hassle.
One little doubt I have, if I save my profile with +68mv, when I reaply it, it goes down to 62m. The only way to have +68mv aplied from start is to save a profile with +74mv so it goes down to +68mv when applied. Actual aplied offset seems to be replaced by target offset when profiles get saved.
Is that correct or am I misunderstanding something? Btw: using stock fan profile I get 69º core and 64º vrm on heaven, are those readings acceptable or must I use a more agressive custom profile? Like to keep it silent if possible...
I agree with you all about nvidia restriction and msi obsequious, it's definitely wrong, but most probably a workaround will be found (I wish so, if not I'll lose 100mhz on core and 1000Mhz on memory, my card does not overclock over 25mhz core and 100mhz memory without added voltage (it sucks, I know)). So, if the lockup is definitive, I'll lose that nearly 15% performance bunch I get from voltage tweaking this card, and taking into acount we all paid MSi for that voltage tweaking, I feel they are now "stealing" it from us. I would like to know how many of us would have bought the lightning if it had no voltage tweaking from scratch (5% perhaps?). I would personaly have gone for a reference if wanted to save, or for a CUII if wanted granted performance (in most cases they can reach 1300/7000 with no extra voltage added). Just my 2 cents...
Kind Regards and thanks in advance!

All you have to do is not upgrade afterburner. The official versions never expire, I still have a friend with an old 580 box using an ancient version of afterburner from early 2011 (and he overvolts his 580 with it).

It is really annoying that nvidia is doing this, I had 7970s prior to getting 680s and I have to say that they were way more hassle free for overclocking, and I feel that they scaled more (in terms of performance over stock) than the 680 does. For instance, the 7970 starts out slower than the 680 but when you overclock it to 1250 - it is definitely faster in some titles while being even in others (bf3, batman: AC). I really feel like nvidia pushed the GK104 to the limit out of the gate so that it could beat the stock 7970, perhaps this is why they're limiting voltage on it.

With that said, I love my 680L's yet I really dislike nvidia doing something like this. I dunno. If nvidia does this again in future products it might sway my decision to go AMD next time - as long as performance is comparable. I don't like the precedent they're setting, it is basically a "F YOU" to enthusiasts.
Edited by xoleras - 9/17/12 at 8:23am
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Well all i can say is that AB 2.2.3 will be a permanent feature on my pc biggrin.gif Till then I still have the card that MSI promised me. Up to and until the supposed new nvidia drivers dont work with the AB 2.2.3 will be the day I had my money stolen from me rolleyes.gif Oh well, maybe Nvidia needs to get some bad rep before they figure "hey, whats the harm in allowing unlockable voltages? people who push the cards beyond 1.4V most likely have already used exotic cooling and have voided the warranty, Hands clean". It just tells me they are not confident in their product.
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Well all i can say is that AB 2.2.3 will be a permanent feature on my pc biggrin.gif Till then I still have the card that MSI promised me. Up to and until the supposed new nvidia drivers dont work with the AB 2.2.3 will be the day I had my money stolen from me rolleyes.gif Oh well, maybe Nvidia needs to get some bad rep before they figure "hey, whats the harm in allowing unlockable voltages? people who push the cards beyond 1.4V most likely have already used exotic cooling and have voided the warranty, Hands clean". It just tells me they are not confident in their product.

'Normal' people can only get to 1.36v with their Lightning. Us that know how to use the hack are quite the minority. But I can't believe Nvidia is so strict on even 1.36v. The chip still stays pretty cool.

I would like to think that the 780 will not be as locked down as this one is. With the rumored amount of cores and clocks laid back a bit, maybe they won't be such Control Nazi's next round since they won't have to push it so far right out of the gate.
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'Normal' people can only get to 1.36v with their Lightning.
How do you get 1.36v without the hack? I can only reach 1.30v (1.21 LN2 + 93 AB offset)

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How do you get 1.36v without the hack? I can only reach 1.30v (1.21 LN2 + 93 AB offset)
Kind Regards!

Flash your semi locked down LN2 bios with one in the first page of this thread.
    
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Also, you're not going by the Afterburner voltage reading are you? Because it's not exactly accurate. So, yeah I'd check your BIOS version with the ones listed in the OP. If you have 300% Power Limit, then you have ~1.36v with +93mv regardless of the Afterburner reading.
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Exactly ! If you ll measure it with the multimeter, you ll see that you got 1.36 real.
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Thanks indeed for the replys boys, in fact I have the LN2 Unlocked BIOS (3A), but AB reads only 1.30 maxed out, I know it is not to be trusted but I did not think the difference was that much (0.06).

Happy with my humble 1300/7000 LN2 OC, still impresed on memory oc impact. Tested Crysis 2 Adrenaline Bench and results from memory oc are amazing. (core +68 mem +50 aux +0)





Wish I could hit 1350 with +93mv but its a no-go. I've seen some of you reaching 1300/1350 with no added voltage, and I have to use +68 just to get to 1300, damn you lucky bstrds biggrin.gif. Power limiter has nothing to do with it, hasn´t it? I'm using it at 150% right now cause it never pases the 80's...

Kind Regards!

BTW, AB v2.2.4 is out, go get it quickly!!! biggrin.gif
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Anyone tried it? Does it still support voltage control?
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Hi,

I have seen just a few guys even here to go that high- it is a Gauss graph, IMHO - just a handful of chips are that good- I remember having 2 dud HD 7970s and the best 7970 got smoked at a moderate overclock-mad.gif

A silicon lottery,. biggrin.gif

On a side note, I would like to know if Unwinder will come up with a solution how to edit the new AFB to be again "compatible " redface.gif
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