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Ciao. I want to flash to 3A bios too. But when i have 2 cards can i flash them in one step both together ?
Or i must do that gradually one card after one.
Sorry for noob question. I expect professional answer smile.gif
Many thx for reply.
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Im joining the club but problem right now is I had the thing running at 1386 core / +450 on the mem stable (did 5 heaven runs and played some AVP)

Today it crashed like a son of a ***** and then it started making loud electricity noise (coil whine?) but its not so audiable after closing the case so i was like huh? and then for some odd reason my ASIC quality went from being 100% to now being 78.5% which I believe to be quite low for a lightning.....

I received it on the 14th so I can still try to RMA to memoryexpress.com but their customer service is pretty much the worst on the planet and will refuse RMA / exchanges because they are dicks...

Other option is to RMA to MSI which would seem to be a **** choice as well from what I've been hearing from people and they tend to give it back to you with the locked bios and flashing it will void warranty... mine came with the 3a unlocked bios.......

P.S. did a clean install to see if that would do any good since I had lots of hardware chances on the comp without one and it did nothing.

As for overclocks its still being stable so far at 1350 / +400 mem going to test stability slowly again and climb up as far as it rocks i guess....

Any suggestions guys?
Edited by magiwizard - 10/25/12 at 8:28am
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God I hate triple slot cards..galaxy has single slot 680 in the works. Hopefully it gets released in the us
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i hope Nvidia will sort something out soon in the way of a driver

AMD's latest drivers have put 7970's @ 1200mhz within touching distance of our lightnings frown.gif
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i hope Nvidia will sort something out soon in the way of a driver
AMD's latest drivers have put 7970's @ 1200mhz within touching distance of our lightnings frown.gif

Maybe, i would love to see some image comparisons tho. Woundnt be surprised if AMD lowered some settings in order to optain more fps. tongue.gif Did their new driver fix coilwhine too? haha
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i hope Nvidia will sort something out soon in the way of a driver
AMD's latest drivers have put 7970's @ 1200mhz within touching distance of our lightnings frown.gif

Touching distance? 7970s and even 7950s with Catalyst 12.11 have us trailing.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57413-amd-12-11-never-settle-driver-performance-17.html
Rather, the 12.11s offer an across-the-board performance increase that pushes the HD 7970 GHz Edition right past the GTX 680

I would say that it's been this way since Catalyst 12.7 beta. Even with the best Kepler card - the Lightning GTX 680 @ 1311MHz/1747MHz Nvidia's flagship is still getting edged out by the 7970 @ 1250MHz/1670MHz. In some games, 'edged out' is putting it lightly. Spanked would be more fitting.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/msi-n680gtx-lightning_7.html

The world awaits a response from Nvidia...
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Touching distance? 7970s and even 7950s with Catalyst 12.11 have us trailing.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57413-amd-12-11-never-settle-driver-performance-17.html
Rather, the 12.11s offer an across-the-board performance increase that pushes the HD 7970 GHz Edition right past the GTX 680
I would say that it's been this way since Catalyst 12.7 beta. Even with the best Kepler card - the Lightning GTX 680 @ 1311MHz/1747MHz Nvidia's flagship is still getting edged out by the 7970 @ 1250MHz/1670MHz. In some games, 'edged out' is putting it lightly. Spanked would be more fitting.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/msi-n680gtx-lightning_7.html
The world awaits a response from Nvidia...

I love how low OC they used on the Lightning compared to the 7970. 1250 MHz on a 7970 is pretty much max and the Lightning is 200-250 MHz from what it can do.

AMDs driver/game support still sucks compared to Nvidia. So who cares about some random numbers. You prob. do since you bought a 7970. But i wouldnt trade my 680 for any 7970 card thats for sure thumb.gif Been there, and not going back for some time now. Why would i when my card run all games flawlessly? I changed to GTX 680 because i wasnt satisfied with my 7970s. (Yes i had two, first one died but both had same issues, actually the 2nd had even more coilwhine...) Lots of this is prob. due to ****ty drivers..

Coilwhine, artifacts, bugged shadows, bad gpu usage, 2D flickering when scrolling/browsing.. When i used my HDMI -> TV, i couldnt get the start menu away. Big and small problems, that pissed me off and made me switch in the end. FPS aint everything.

On my Lightning i have had ZERO problems so far. 3 months out. Best card i have ever owned. The only downside is the lack of GPU voltage support in newer AB.

The Nvidia-based solutions are somewhat better in terms of bottom frame rate, though (From your Link) Minimum fps is whats most important in my book, and even on a low OCed Lightning like that..

I still wonder why you are writing that stuff in a 680 owners thread, i guess you want to piss people off rolleyes.gif

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I love how low OC they used on the Lightning compared to the 7970. 1250 MHz on a 7970 is pretty much max and the Lightning is 200-250 MHz from what it can do.
AMDs driver/game support still sucks compared to Nvidia. So who cares about some random numbers. You prob. do since you bought a 7970. But i wouldnt trade my 680 for any 7970 card thats for sure thumb.gif Been there, and not going back for some time now. Why would i when my card run all games flawlessly? I changed to GTX 680 because i wasnt satisfied with my 7970s. (Yes i had two, first one died but both had same issues, actually the 2nd had even more coilwhine...)
Coilwhine, artifacts, bugged shadows, bad gpu usage, 2D flickering when scrolling/browsing.. FPS aint everything.
On my Lightning i have had ZERO problems so far. 3 months out. Best card i have ever owned. The only downside is the lack of GPU voltage support in newer AB.
The Nvidia-based solutions are somewhat better in terms of bottom frame rate, though (From your Link) Minimum fps is whats most important in my book, and even on a low OCed Lightning like that..
I still wonder why you are writing that stuff in a 680 owners thread, i guess you want to piss people off rolleyes.gif

Everything bold I concur, the rest is subjective. Before 12.11, it was debatable as they were pretty close in performance. Now, I'm not so sure anymore. I wouldn't bet on the 680.

Care to post some game / synthetic benchmarks (AVP, Metro 2033, Heaven, 3DMark 11, Shogun 2, Crysis 2, Sleeping Dogs, etc.) results here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1317282/gtx-680-or-amd-7970/40#post_18440904

I will follow up with the same tests with same settings. Use your maximum clocks. Should provide some valuable and updated comparative 680 vs. 7970 results for provided thread and for people still on the fence.

*Oh yes, I had a 680 Lightning and 1311/1747 is close to what one can expect out of these nowadays. Mine maxed out at 1372/1771 with all voltage options maxed. An extra 50-60MHz is going to net you what? 1, 2, maybe less than 1 extra frame. An extra 200-250MHz is a pipe dream.
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Touching distance? 7970s and even 7950s with Catalyst 12.11 have us trailing.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57413-amd-12-11-never-settle-driver-performance-17.html
Rather, the 12.11s offer an across-the-board performance increase that pushes the HD 7970 GHz Edition right past the GTX 680
I would say that it's been this way since Catalyst 12.7 beta. Even with the best Kepler card - the Lightning GTX 680 @ 1311MHz/1747MHz Nvidia's flagship is still getting edged out by the 7970 @ 1250MHz/1670MHz. In some games, 'edged out' is putting it lightly. Spanked would be more fitting.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/msi-n680gtx-lightning_7.html
The world awaits a response from Nvidia...

would hardly call it "spanking", only taken AMD about a year to improve the performance

not to mention Nvidia has been finding ways to cripple their cards lol, goes to show

i get 1340mhz on stock voltage, where as my mate has just popped his 7970 VRM running a 1200mhz overclock on his 24/7


nvidia will release a driver in the next month or 2, they have no other choice tbh if they want people to keep buying their cards. But one thing is for sure

ild never trade my 680's for 7970's, last 7950 i owned went back for an RMA after 9 days lol
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Im joining the club but problem right now is I had the thing running at 1386 core / +450 on the mem stable (did 5 heaven runs and played some AVP)

Today it crashed like a son of a ***** and then it started making loud electricity noise (coil whine?) but its not so audiable after closing the case so i was like huh? and then for some odd reason my ASIC quality went from being 100% to now being 78.5% which I believe to be quite low for a lightning.....



The lower ASIC quality might be because you have used the older version of gpu-z before, and now you read it out with the latest version of gpu-. The latest show completely different numbers. btw my card has an asic quality of 7x% too and it clocks really good.

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