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Yeah, I've found that the ASIC quality doesn't always match up to the clockability of a card. My 670 had a 98% and it was just an average clocker.
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ASIC means absolutely nothing on these cards I've been told. After seeing people with both low and high percentages clock to right around the same speeds, I'm tempted to believe it as well.

As another example, my awesome 1480/7200 chip has a rating of 95%, and the 'average' one that barely does 1340mhz is 100%. Higher ASIC rating means lower default voltage and higher overclocking on air, yet the lower-rated of my 2 cards can run the stock speed at a much lower voltage and overclock way higher on the stock voltage than the higher-rated one.

I put zero faith in that ASIC rating.
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ASIC means absolutely nothing on these cards I've been told. After seeing people with both low and high percentages clock to right around the same speeds, I'm tempted to believe it as well.
As another example, my awesome 1480/7200 chip has a rating of 95%, and the 'average' one that barely does 1340mhz is 100%. Higher ASIC rating means lower default voltage and higher overclocking on air, yet the lower-rated of my 2 cards can run the stock speed at a much lower voltage and overclock way higher on the stock voltage than the higher-rated one.
I put zero faith in that ASIC rating.

New gpu-z will read asic quality correctly. Version is 0.6.5 if i remember correctly. My vanilla 680's dropped from 100 and 95 to 76 and 71%. The one with higher asic clocks about 40mhz higher.
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New gpu-z will read asic quality correctly. Version is 0.6.5 if i remember correctly. My vanilla 680's dropped from 100 and 95 to 76 and 71%. The one with higher asic clocks about 40mhz higher.

This

Theres still way too many factors that come into play to put too much worth into it.
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New gpu-z will read asic quality correctly. Version is 0.6.5 if i remember correctly. My vanilla 680's dropped from 100 and 95 to 76 and 71%. The one with higher asic clocks about 40mhz higher.

This

Theres still way too many factors that come into play to put too much worth into it.

True. Still cool that it might give an accurate reading now though.

So I upgraded and now my awesome card is 72% and my average card is 77%. What is considered a "low" rating? Because if 72% is considered low then I have no doubt this reading is accurate, since it says lower ratings are better for overclocking on water/LN2 and I have no doubt that my 1480mhz card would kill if under water. But the so-so card is at 77%. Thoughts?
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1492 card is 79.4%
1482 card is 84.2%

Havnt played around much but most ive gamed at without pushing is 1400mhz on both, best 3dmark 11 was with both @ 1460ish.
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guys i use op guide to flash my locked bios to unlocked one but im getting this error in the cmd

nvflash unable to setup nvflash driver <0x00000002>

TO MR OP

I read somewhere that you are busy like all of us but here what you have to do PAL

First of all like i said before i got my replacement 680 GTX L from MSI couple of days ago it came with the ln2 bios 3A version that was locked so you should update the thing that the latest batches come with the same number as unlocked bios but are locked. So the newbie users dont panik ( go Hispanic lol)

Secound the NV flash that you provide download link is giving above error with the latest nvidia drivers 310.33 beta to solve that problem you have to go to TPU website (techpower up) and download lates version here


then everything else is fine good job i will rep you

The flash of the locked A3 bios to A3 unlocked was sucesful now my card is free again and we are about to have a long night

I still play crysis 2 mp so if you wanna play with me find me 'k2mil'

I dont drink much but today I alowed myself to have some JW Black Label for kids under 18 and 21 dont nv flash while drinkng 'DNVFWD'
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It seems to be fine now since my clocks still settle around 1380 / +450 and no issues yet, going to be going water soon hoping that will help since going higher on the clocks is totally viable until the temps kill the overclock, the card pushes clocks like a beast until temps rise.

side note.... lightning waterblocks are so bloody expensive -_- is there actually a point to go full coverage block over universal block? (other than esthetics)... the vrms and memory are doing fine its the core that is heating like a mofo...
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is there actually a point to go full coverage block over universal block? (other than esthetics)... the vrms and memory are doing fine its the core that is heating like a mofo...

No wonder if you put 1,37V on the core, a normal GTX 680 would get 100+ degrees on those voltages.

Anything 1250mhz or higher is crazy anyway, and memory bottleneck is the biggest problem, the cip needs 300+GBPS transfer for 10-15% more speed..... just thrown in the toilet by Nvidia's great 256 bit design.

I dont see any spectaculair difference from 1250mhz or 1450.

Im glad when GK110 comes, 680 really chokes itself. 192GBPS is nice for a 580, even than its the least u want.
Edited by Arnoud87 - 10/26/12 at 2:45am
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It seems to be fine now since my clocks still settle around 1380 / +450 and no issues yet, going to be going water soon hoping that will help since going higher on the clocks is totally viable until the temps kill the overclock, the card pushes clocks like a beast until temps rise.
side note.... lightning waterblocks are so bloody expensive -_- is there actually a point to go full coverage block over universal block? (other than esthetics)... the vrms and memory are doing fine its the core that is heating like a mofo...

Until you up the volts then the VRMs get warm, but a universal block and a fan would be as good just not as pretty
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