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Originally Posted by mfranco702 View Post

I changed my original msi Lightning for the EVGA SC Signature 2 because it was $150 cheaper and thinking it would be the same in performance, it is in certain way since this EVGA boosts to 1215 MHz stock, the only real difference is the temps and noise. the dual fan design of the EVGA helps to cool it down but isn't even close to the Twin Frozr IV
Now the Lightning dropped to $499 and I'm thinking if I should get it back, but is it really worth it for the average gamer? I understand that in order to achieve great frequencies you need to mess up with the BIOS and play voltages but, I dont really wana do that, what do you guys recommend to do? does flashing your BIOS void the warranty?

For you...it's definitely not worth it in regards solely to performance. If you don't plan on overclocking or overvolting, then there's no point in going from a 1215mhz stock speed card to a 1202mhz card. Unless you're really bothered by noise and the Lightning is much quieter. But if you want to overclock someday, which you should because it's free performance, then the Lightning may be for you if don't mind paying the premium for minimal gains (on air. Bigger gains will come from watercooling one of these bad boys).

But on a side note, flashing the BIOS and overvolting/overclocking with Afterburner is pretty damn easy, so don't let that be the only reason that turns you off from getting one.
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Originally Posted by dph314 View Post

LN2 BIOS is fine for air. I've used +93mv (highest Afterburner 2.2.3 overvolts without the hack) many times and the card stays in the 60C's with a decent custom fan curve.
And I think this card has a rather decent level of fan noise. It never bothered me to begin with though, because I can't hear it over the volume of the game or when I'm wearing headphones. You'll probably have to set the fan curve to be more aggressive than the default one if you plan on going near +93mv, or especially above, to keep the card nice and cool. But these things run so cool that it shouldn't be too loud at all.

Thanks for your help. One more question. When you max the voltage to +93mv, what is your actual voltage reading at full load? I know all Nvidia 680s do locked max voltage of 1.175v, but I'm not familiar with the Afterburner method of voltage readings and adjustments on these new cards.

Afterburner and every other software will incorrectly read the voltage. The unlocked LN2 BIOS, the one in the OP that you'll have to flash to when you get your card, will have a stock voltage of 1.26v, with the +93mv offset in Afterburner bringing it up to roughly 1.36v.
Edited by dph314 - 10/26/12 at 11:26am
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$480 after MIR
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ARE U F'ING KIDDING ME... they are 480 now!!!!!!
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ARE U F'ING KIDDING ME... they are 480 now!!!!!!
yea i know i got mine for 536 ---> 605 with tax like 2 weeks ago and now they're selling for 457.49 --- > 505 with tax if you price beat with memoryexpress so within 2 weeks my card depreciated 100$ lol (**** 13% sales tax in canada)... though im tempted to get another one..... not sure if I'll be waiting for the next series to come out O_o oh yea and 20$ mail in rebate.... so.... 485 taxes in for a lightning now lol
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i could have bought 3!!!!!! minds well be buy one get one free..well almost
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i could have bought 3!!!!!! minds well be buy one get one free..well almost

You mean get 3 and do a little 'self-binning'? Or actually keep all 3? I'm not sure about the recent drivers improving performance for 3 or 4-card setups, but I do know that gains are much less after 2 cards. If you do plan on getting all 3, just out of curiosity, what kind of setup do you have display-wise? You should fill out your specs in the Rigbuilder wink.gif
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For 3 you need at least a 3960x on 4,5Ghz or something. thats 3,6 Ghz of GTX 680 that CPU needs to feed.... lol my i5 Quad 760 at 3.9Ghz is the bare minimum for only 1!!! Still lacks like 8% performance of the GPU (in 3dmark), really can't feed that card when FPS go above 80-90 +-.

So 3 GTX 680's what the fak? tongue.gif
Edited by Arnoud87 - 10/27/12 at 7:01am
post #3508 of 7827
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Originally Posted by Lass3 View Post

I love how low OC they used on the Lightning compared to the 7970. 1250 MHz on a 7970 is pretty much max and the Lightning is 200-250 MHz from what it can do.
AMDs driver/game support still sucks compared to Nvidia. So who cares about some random numbers. You prob. do since you bought a 7970. But i wouldnt trade my 680 for any 7970 card thats for sure thumb.gif Been there, and not going back for some time now. Why would i when my card run all games flawlessly? I changed to GTX 680 because i wasnt satisfied with my 7970s. (Yes i had two, first one died but both had same issues, actually the 2nd had even more coilwhine...) Lots of this is prob. due to ****ty drivers..
Coilwhine, artifacts, bugged shadows, bad gpu usage, 2D flickering when scrolling/browsing.. When i used my HDMI -> TV, i couldnt get the start menu away. Big and small problems, that pissed me off and made me switch in the end. FPS aint everything.
On my Lightning i have had ZERO problems so far. 3 months out. Best card i have ever owned.
wheee.gif

Yeah AMD has horrible drivers, read it everywhere how crap it is.
Nvidia's colour palet is also MUCH better. This ain't anything to do with drivers or settings!
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On my Lightning i have had ZERO problems so far. 3 months out. Best card i have ever owned. The only downside is the lack of GPU voltage support in newer AB.

Read post 1, there is no downside in AB224.
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haha i agree on that one but im not at 1.37v. Those clocks are stable at 1.22v and any more voltage just overheats like a mofo, for curiosity I've gone above that and the core is stable until about 68 degrees+ suggesting that it will be fine if I can manage to get the card properly cooled. Once i get a better cooling option I'll try pushing 1.37 but until then its 1380 / +450

Mine gets like 65 degrees max, at max voltages in Antec 1200 fans on auto... 30-40% max. I need 55% fans for 1306 MHz, so i keep it +100 for lowest fan speed smile.gif.
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Originally Posted by dph314 View Post

Ha. Turns out my awesome card boosts to 1202 on non-LN2. Coulda had the same speed at 1.175v this whole time doh.gif Another tid-bit, the inferior card boosts higher, to 1215mhz. Nice.
Better card only boosted to 1176mhz though during the GPU-Z render test, and then 1202mhz during 3dMark11? Both were full 99% loads...?

I get 1215Mhz stock as well, but doesnt matter if you overclock, wont say anthing... I can even go 1225mhz on stock voltage but need s h i t loads of volts to get 70 mhz more wink.gif. So basically mine's craps out at 1225...
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Originally Posted by Gregster View Post

Hi Guys, I thought I would join the Lightning fan club. I previously had a EVGA reference 680 from day 1 of the 680 release and invested in a Lightning to go SLI for my 3 3D monitors. I was so impressed with the LTG, I sold the EVGA and bought another. My bridge was leaking on the second LTG, so I made my own link system with a few connecors smile.gif
Great thread guys and I have been a keen follower of this for quite a while.

Nice! What overclocks you get? 1450? > water
Edited by Arnoud87 - 10/27/12 at 7:28am
post #3509 of 7827
Hi.
I am flash bios to 3A from F8. Now i want to try what my lightnigs can do on LN2 bios without hardreset. But i have a problem. I use AFB 2.2.3. without hack and when i try to increase voltage to 100% and run benchmark i have a same stock LN2 voltage 1.21 max.
How can i get more volts ? I do not understand it.
How you guys do that with voltage around 1.3-1.4 ?
Please someone help me.
Cheers
post #3510 of 7827
Hello, you have to measure the voltage directly with the multimeter - AFB reports the voltage wrong..
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