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He didn't "get" 1450. It wasn't stable and also throttled.
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but power throttled back a bit no matter how much voltage I pumped into the card, causing it to downclock a bit. Anything past 1.3v appears to throttle... which leaves me to ask EVGA reps: Is there a voltage cap on the Classy cards with EVBot?

^^Here you see that the card does throttle. The classified DOES temperature throttle, your info is wrong there, you can ask Andrew to verify, he has posted that it does before. Multiple people have confirmed that the classified does temperature throttle, even JacobF from EVGA can verify that.

More classified results @ 1270 max OC: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1668607&mpage=3
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Wow I'm so bummed reading through this thread! My classy I received today won't go past 1270 on stock voltage..frown.gif my vanillas do 1227 core! that's only a difference of 43 MHz!!!!! frown.gif my power supply is brand new and More than sufficient for this card. Do you guys think my motherboard is holding back since the classy 759 doesn't have an auxiliary power input? I also tried a lightning and couldn't get past 1280 or so on the ln2 bios.Or just bad luck!

1270 max OC, doesn't your reference clock higher than that?

More classified results from a newegg review, 1260 max OC:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130801
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Cons: Unfortunately the card I received would not overclock well at all, the max GPU boost I could achieve was 1255mhz. For a 660$ card I expected more than this, these cards are supposedly binned I thought but this one was a dud. The other annoyance is that voltage control requires a 100$ purchase from EVGA, that seems pretty ridiculous - that makes the total cost near 800$ for a single card.

First, i'm anxious to see more results for the classified. Unfortunately, your claim of being the biggest and baddest isn't quite true in this case, 680 classified max OC's per newegg and EVGA forums has been 1260, 1270, 1265, 1296, and 1333. The result you posted about 1450mhz isn't true, it wasn't stable and throttled - furthermore, the classified does temp throttle.

Now with your post history I know you love causing and stirring trouble, which is the only rationale I can think of for coming to the lightning owners club thread and talking about this. Especially when the results obtained from users contradict your statement - if anything the classified is getting worse overclocks than the lightning from what i've been reading.

Here's another result: 1312 max OC and this guy has EVbot apparently: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=1668607&mpage=2
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finally I got 1312 and +500 mem stable everywhere... for more it need EVBot and Water!!!
temps at load ~60 +/-5


Now most of these results are less than 1300, and this is the biggest and baddest card? Also, using EV bot causes ridiculous temps from what i've read, fatalzity posted that his temps went 80-90 with EV bot voltages. Again, the jury is still out. Perhaps you should read more thoroughly before coming to the lightning owners club to stir trouble.
Edited by xoleras - 7/17/12 at 9:38pm
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So to summarize, per the data on record the classified max OC's on the EVGA classified we have are 1260, 1270, 1296, 1300 and 1312. Thats hardly different from the lightning - the other thing to add is that EV bot voltages causes temps to skyrocket, per Andrew, so it is no usable because temps go to 80-90C. The only way to use it is on water.

I know you like stirring up trouble per your posting history, but i'd suggest reading all of the available info thoroughly before posting such things in a non - related thread. Simply reading through that thread and newegg would indicate that people aren't getting amazing OCs with it... the data suggests that the card isn't the OC beast that some people think it could be, although we could use more data in this regard.

I will also point out that multiple lightning users have achieved greater than 1350mhz oc's including DPH, bosniac, myself, and some others, so far no fully stress tested classified result has achieved that. Andrew tried 1400 and it failed, and was not able to produce a benchmark result.
Edited by xoleras - 7/17/12 at 9:35pm
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He didn't "get" 1450. It wasn't stable and also throttled.
^^Here you see that the card does throttle. The classified DOES temperature throttle, your info is wrong there, you can ask Andrew to verify, he has posted that it does before. Multiple people have confirmed that the classified does temperature throttle, even JacobF from EVGA can verify that.
More classified results @ 1270 max OC: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1668607&mpage=3
1270 max OC, doesn't your reference clock higher than that?
More classified results from a newegg review, 1260 max OC:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130801
First, i'm anxious to see more results for the classified. Unfortunately, your claim of being the biggest and baddest isn't quite true in this case, 680 classified max OC's per newegg and EVGA forums has been 1260, 1270, 1265, 1296, and 1333. The result you posted about 1450mhz isn't true, it wasn't stable and throttled - furthermore, the classified does temp throttle.
Now with your post history I know you love causing and stirring trouble, which is the only rationale I can think of for coming to the lightning owners club thread and talking about this. Especially when the results obtained from users contradict your statement - if anything the classified is getting worse overclocks than the lightning from what i've been reading.
Here's another result: 1312 max OC and this guy has EVbot apparently: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?&m=1668607&mpage=2
Now most of these results are less than 1300, and this is the biggest and baddest card? Also, using EV bot causes ridiculous temps from what i've read, fatalzity posted that his temps went 80-90 with EV bot voltages. Again, the jury is still out. Perhaps you should read more thoroughly before coming to the lightning owners club to stir trouble.
Nice job not posting the whole message. I didn't come here to start any trouble, but you're trying to take it that direction. Here is the post in FULL without being edited or shortened.

He specified that the temps WAS NOT the cause of the throttle, but when he tried pumping more than 1.3v to the core. There seems to be a limit currently on how much volt's you can feed the Classified. In reply to the rest of your message, those clocks were achived on STOCK voltage of 1.175v, so of course you can't expect anything amazing form them without the EvBot.

At least EVGA was true to their word and provided a means for voltage adjustment, unlike MSI who sold you guys lies....
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No final results yet, but I was able to get to 1450 without major issues, but power throttled back a bit no matter how much voltage I pumped into the card, causing it to downclock a bit. Anything past 1.3v appears to throttle... which leaves me to ask EVGA reps: Is there a voltage cap on the Classy cards with EVBot?

The card wasn't thermal throttling. If this is the case, then I'll be finding the limits of these cards on air.



Edit: Don't put words in Andrews mouth, he didn't say ANYTHING about it not being stable. Not sure how you came to that interpretation based on his post.
Edited by Benchmarksli - 7/17/12 at 10:02pm
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So 1 card got to 1450 mhz with voltage adjustment at a cost of $760 ? I will take my lightning over it any day and I don't have the best overclocking one (1302 core).
Damn that $760.00 doesn't even include a back plate smh. BTW my clocks are higher then many classifieds can achieve and my card runs a bunch cooler and is not limited to a 55% fan speed.
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The card (classified 680) does thermal throttle at 70C like other 680 cards, several posters at the EVGA board confirmed this, you're welcome to ask them if you think i'm lying. I've lurked pretty intently at the EVGA forums for some time looking over results and it DOES THROTTLE, I just don't feel like digging up those posts. Anyway, you can ask Andrew but he certainly did not get 1450mhz stable, ask him. The card downclocks -- Yesterday he posted his max stable OC in tri sli as 1266, 1296 and 1333, then he posted today an attempt at 1400 but it didn't work.

The classified isn't getting better OC's than the lightning, most of the cards per the EVGA forum are clocking in the high 1200s. Simply reading that entire thread would make it plainly obvious that everyone is getting high 1200s with their classified cards. Now of course MSI is in the wrong for the whole voltage thing which isn't ready yet, but your statements regarding thermal throttling on the classified is false, and the overclocks achieved on the classified are certainly nothing amazing -- as I said read the entire three classy threads where they all clock in the high 1200s. And then try to claim that its the biggest and baddest card, yeah right.
Edited by xoleras - 7/18/12 at 4:31am
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So 1 card got to 1450 mhz with voltage adjustment at a cost of $760 ? I will take my lightning over it any day and I don't have the best overclocking one (1302 core).
Damn that $760.00 doesn't even include a back plate smh. BTW my clocks are higher then many classifieds can achieve and my card runs a bunch cooler and is not limited to a 55% fan speed.

I agree. You're getting into GTX 690 territory with those prices. Come to think of it, buying a 690 would be the smarter thing to do, price and performance wise.
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One question! rolleyes.gif i turned off my system, and flipped the bios switch rolleyes.gif when i got into windows it all looked like before i installed the nvidia drivers. Do you have to install drivers 2 times?? i'm totally new on all of this so help would be appreciated rolleyes.gif GPU-Z did also show 0-mhz nerdsmiley.png
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Hey, for my motherboard with a Noctua D14 cooler the lightning's gpu reactor will fit ?
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I tried restarting now, nothing happened shows the low resolution and afterburner wont start.. whats this? did i get a Rma where the guy flashed the second bios and screwed it up? frown.gif
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