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Yep, I been following that issue. Not sure how flashing the ROM would cause it to not take a subsequent flash, but I hope you figure it out soon. I've never had that issue before and have absolutely no clue on what the issue could be unfortunately. Sorry.

I would just try Google'ing issues that others have had with GPUs and BIOS flashes and see if any similar issues have happened to others, and if they found a fix.
You wont believe what i've been doing for the last three days now wink.gif

I appreciate you trying to help me. I've placed my issue at a few boards. Hope someone has the answer smile.gif
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dph314

You were right. messing around with it i can get it to 1400 stable

How does this power limit thing work though this is what happens to me
+93mv
+150 power limit ( anything higher and it crash)
+200 core
+500 mem
=stable 1395 clock

the guides i been reading been saying to just use 300 power limit right away
so i do that

+93mv
+300 power limit
+200 core
+500 mem
= instant crashes

i can only make it work at +300 power limit like this
+93mv
+300 power limit
+100 core
+500 mem
=stable 1295 clock

should i just be maxing everything and slowly bring the power limit up until it crash then back it off. Because thats not how anyone is saying to OC these cards. I'm used to not having to deal with this silly power limit stuff
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dph314

You were right. messing around with it i can get it to 1400 stable

How does this power limit thing work though this is what happens to me
+93mv
+150 power limit ( anything higher and it crash)
+200 core
+500 mem
=stable 1395 clock

the guides i been reading been saying to just use 300 power limit right away
so i do that

+93mv
+300 power limit
+200 core
+500 mem
= instant crashes

i can only make it work at +300 power limit like this
+93mv
+300 power limit
+100 core
+500 mem
=stable 1295 clock

should i just be maxing everything and slowly bring the power limit up until it crash then back it off. Because thats not how anyone is saying to OC these cards. I'm used to not having to deal with this silly power limit stuff

Wow, you got a great card thumb.gif

Yeah I've seen people saying a lower Power Limit helps with stability sometimes. Never knew what to make of it, as it's never really affected my card one way or another. But if it helps, then yeah, definitely keep it lower. As long as the card doesn't throttle due to the lower Power Limit, then I'd say you're fine.
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Hey guys, what is a "safe" voltage to use this cards 24/7 in games and such.
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Hey guys, what is a "safe" voltage to use this cards 24/7 in games and such.

Opinions differ, but personally, I think if you can keep temps in the low 70C's, then there's nothing wrong with +93mv. We haven't had these cards long enough to know whether or not the life is actually shortened enough to be noticeable (as in taking many years off the estimated life). I mean, running +93mv 24/7 could cut the lives of these things in half, but if it does and the card's lifetime goes from 12 years down to 6...that's what I mean by 'noticeably', as in very few people have their GPU 6 years (just approximate guesses for the sake of the example).

So, only having these for 7 months or so, we're not going to know for a while whether or not they noticeably degrade. What I can tell you with absolute certainty is that of everyone in this thread since late June, no one has fried or even degraded their card, and some damn crazy voltages have been run here.

Basically it's a personal preference, but the longer all of us go without any signs of degradation, the more I tell people to just sit back and enjoy the damn thing smile.gif I mean...you paid $600 and you're going to have this thing for a relatively short period of time. Much shorter than it's lifetime I'm sure. So we don't know for a fact +93mv is shaving years off it's life like there's no tomorrow, but either way, it's also not helping. So I just say- use it when you need it, but only when you can keep temps low.
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Opinions differ, but personally, I think if you can keep temps in the low 70C's, then there's nothing wrong with +93mv. We haven't had these cards long enough to know whether or not the life is actually shortened enough to be noticeable (as in taking many years off the estimated life). I mean, running +93mv 24/7 could cut the lives of these things in half, but if it does and the card's lifetime goes from 12 years down to 6...that's what I mean by 'noticeably', as in very few people have their GPU 6 years (just approximate guesses for the sake of the example).

So, only having these for 7 months or so, we're not going to know for a while whether or not they noticeably degrade. What I can tell you with absolute certainty is that of everyone in this thread since late June, no one has fried or even degraded their card, and some damn crazy voltages have been run here.

Basically it's a personal preference, but the longer all of us go without any signs of degradation, the more I tell people to just sit back and enjoy the damn thing smile.gif I mean...you paid $600 and you're going to have this thing for a relatively short period of time. Much shorter than it's lifetime I'm sure. So we don't know for a fact +93mv is shaving years off it's life like there's no tomorrow, but either way, it's also not helping. So I just say- use it when you need it, but only when you can keep temps low.

Thanks! I'll aim for a 1350 core clock, and if i can do it with lower voltage then i will stick with that. Temps won't be a problem since I will be using a waterblock with it, so it shouldn't pass 50C at all.

Btw, the only accurate way to check voltages is with a multimeter right?
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Well, you can figure it out on your own through the Afterburner graph. I know stock is 1.26v and +93mv is 1.36v. But Afterburner shows 1.21v and 1.31v (respectively). So I know that my actual voltage is always 50mv higher than what Afterburner is showing.

Usually I just do the math myself though. Stock voltage is 1.26v on the unlocked 3A. So you know if you add +140mv, then you're at 1.4v, and so on... So, little bit of math and you're good smile.gif

But yes, it's probably best, if you start to get really up into the more dangerous voltages, to use a multimeter.
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Wait, what? Why is 1,26v + 93mv 1,36v? Also, you could say that for the 3A bios afterburner always shows 50mv less?
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Wait, what? Why is 1,26v + 93mv 1,36v? Also, you could say that for the 3A bios afterburner always shows 50mv less?

I don't know if it's like that for everyone, but the few times I've enabled the voltage to display in the Afterburner graph for the hell of it, it's been 50mv less than actual, for me anyways.

Yeah stock voltage is around 1.255v-to-1.265v. +93mv usually brings it to around 1.36v. So, I just use 1.26v and 1.36v I guess, as close estimates.
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Let's back do fixed vcore here.

Edit-

No diferrence here.

Maybe my motherboard don't let it score more.

Or i'm doing something wrong.

Im with w8pro.

The win8 does make a difference. Now that it is getting more common I need to remember to look at the OS in links, win8 does tend to give lower bench scores than win7, that is probably it.
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Wait, what? Why is 1,26v + 93mv 1,36v? Also, you could say that for the 3A bios afterburner always shows 50mv less?

Software voltage readings are like that for everything. Poke around the mobo with a multimeter & you will see that the actual voltages for vcore, vdimm, etc. can be very close (or far off for some things) but are rarely the same as what software reads. Gpus are no different.
    
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