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And one other question, is it safe to remove the GPU Reactor and disconnect the pcb for it if there is not enough space for it between the card and my CPU cooler.
Edited by smaudioz - 10/17/13 at 11:26am
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My max score in 3DMark 2011, it's already artifacting at graphic test 3 and 4 biggrin.gif


Like you said before guys, I think I will leave Heaven benchmark too, Valley is better because it's new program and more compatible with latest card especially kepler series.
Btw is it safe daily VRM at 69c? Too high I guess.
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Kinda too high. Yes Heaven is very crap benchmark, it crashes on stock clocks and volts too. And valley is stable on high OC, and they have the same engine. I really think heaven is bugged, because is not normal to crash on stock clocks.

Play some new games, if in 5 days you get crashes then your OC is not stable, that's the ultimate test. Every game is different, some don't crash with OC, and some crash with OC, Heaven is that type of benchmark that crashes everytime for no reason, no artifacting then crashes, only a freeze and boom.

For example i can run Valley multiple times with +300 mem and +0mV on mem volts, and when i run Heaven on the same settings, it crashes within 10 seconds....not even lets the GPU to get some heat....
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Kinda too high. Yes Heaven is very crap benchmark, it crashes on stock clocks and volts too. And valley is stable on high OC, and they have the same engine. I really think heaven is bugged, because is not normal to crash on stock clocks.

Play some new games, if in 5 days you get crashes then your OC is not stable, that's the ultimate test. Every game is different, some don't crash with OC, and some crash with OC, Heaven is that type of benchmark that crashes everytime for no reason, no artifacting then crashes, only a freeze and boom.

For example i can run Valley multiple times with +300 mem and +0mV on mem volts, and when i run Heaven on the same settings, it crashes within 10 seconds....not even lets the GPU to get some heat....
Yup for me the real stability test is gaming smile.gif my fav games for test are Crysis, Metro2033, Tomb Raider Reboot & Battlefield.
Hmm I guess I can't do 1320MHz for daily even with +37mv when gaming temp jumping sky rocket to almost 80c and VRM nearly 70c mad.gif Unlocked LN2 BIOS really makes hot the card.
Btw is it safe using this Unlocked LN2 BIOS for along time or forever?
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Yup for me the real stability test is gaming smile.gif my fav games for test are Crysis, Metro2033, Tomb Raider Reboot & Battlefield.
Hmm I guess I can't do 1320MHz for daily even with +37mv when gaming temp jumping sky rocket to almost 80c and VRM nearly 70c mad.gif Unlocked LN2 BIOS really makes hot the card.
Btw is it safe using this Unlocked LN2 BIOS for along time or forever?


Don't OC that high, OC to max 1280mhz, above that you will never see the difference in gaming, only heat. IMPORTANT: Keep in mind that a stock 680 has 1000mhz and a lightning one has 1200mhz with 1.175V which is a big deal.

Well, the whole card is build with strong PCB components and many VRM's so i guess it's save to use LN2. There is another version of afterburner, called extreme afterburner, that one can damage your card, because (if i remember what a msi staff memeber said to me) with that version i think you can pass 1.4V, that is insane. So LN2 on long usage with max +50mV should be almost 100% safe. Also, i don't think you will keep your GPU for more than 2 years, so it's useless anyway.

As i said, lower the OC, you don't feel the diff in gaming. Mine is at 1267 with +37mV on LN2 and its great.


Also, if you want to keep your clocks and to stop the card for heating, you need to cap your fps in games, for example your card can do 1300Mhz that is insane (the stock gtx680 is 1000mhz) and you have performance, then you need to cap your fps to eg: 70-80fps, and if your card can make more than 70fps in that game then if you cap it at 70fps your gpu usage will drop, and maintaing that 70fps, and the heat will drop.

This is my trick to lower the temps in games while OC-ing. It has a purpose only if you OC kinda big, because then you can achieve performance to eg: stable at 70fps in a game and to drop the gpu usage.
smile.gif

My settings are +67core +300mem(more than 300 i don't think it will feel, only in games that reach 2gb VRAM, which are only Battlefield 4 and Skyrim with texture mods) with +37mV LN2 bios and +10mV mem and +20mV aux voltage to be sure. Temps in games with fps cap to 70-90fps are 72 degrees, VRM to about 64 degrees.
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I don't understand how you gents have such issues with Heaven, I've been using it since version 2.5 on probably 30 different GPUs in the last two years and have yet to have it crash the application. Artiface, or crash my drivers due to unstable OC, sure, but have yet to see the actual application crash.
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Could one of you please do me a favour and measure the maximum length of this card? I am thinking of getting the power edition which physically is the same card as the lightning and different sites state anywhere from 27cm to 29cm. If one of you could measure the max length of the card including the PCI bracket that would be great. Thanks


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280x129x49.15 mm(w/ GPU Reactor)


http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N680GTX-Lightning.html#/?div=Specification

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And one other question, is it safe to remove the GPU Reactor and disconnect the pcb for it if there is not enough space for it between the card and my CPU cooler.

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Thanks for replying, I asked because those measurements on manufacturer sites are usually a bit wrong from what I've experienced and they don't include the length of the side-on pci bracket either. I also bought an asus card the other day and returned in due to the site saying 11.2 and then finding out it was 11.4. Anyways I found a newegg video where he measures the lightning and it's 290mm. But it's fine because I'm going to remove my drive cage and saw it in half anyways, so I'll have room for any card after doing that as well as better airflow.
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Don't OC that high, OC to max 1280mhz, above that you will never see the difference in gaming, only heat. IMPORTANT: Keep in mind that a stock 680 has 1000mhz and a lightning one has 1200mhz with 1.175V which is a big deal.

Well, the whole card is build with strong PCB components and many VRM's so i guess it's save to use LN2. There is another version of afterburner, called extreme afterburner, that one can damage your card, because (if i remember what a msi staff memeber said to me) with that version i think you can pass 1.4V, that is insane. So LN2 on long usage with max +50mV should be almost 100% safe. Also, i don't think you will keep your GPU for more than 2 years, so it's useless anyway.

As i said, lower the OC, you don't feel the diff in gaming. Mine is at 1267 with +37mV on LN2 and its great.


Also, if you want to keep your clocks and to stop the card for heating, you need to cap your fps in games, for example your card can do 1300Mhz that is insane (the stock gtx680 is 1000mhz) and you have performance, then you need to cap your fps to eg: 70-80fps, and if your card can make more than 70fps in that game then if you cap it at 70fps your gpu usage will drop, and maintaing that 70fps, and the heat will drop.

This is my trick to lower the temps in games while OC-ing. It has a purpose only if you OC kinda big, because then you can achieve performance to eg: stable at 70fps in a game and to drop the gpu usage.
smile.gif

My settings are +67core +300mem(more than 300 i don't think it will feel, only in games that reach 2gb VRAM, which are only Battlefield 4 and Skyrim with texture mods) with +37mV LN2 bios and +10mV mem and +20mV aux voltage to be sure. Temps in games with fps cap to 70-90fps are 72 degrees, VRM to about 64 degrees.

Thx for the info, mate. Add +rep for you wink.gif
Yup I guess I will lower it to maybe 1306MHz with +12mv or more lower like you said. I wish I lived in Europe ^_^ temp will be more lower than in my country.
OK then LN2 unlocked BIOS will be my daily usage.
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hey fella's first time owner and poster for 680 lightning im having heat issues im idling awesome at 29-32c now im not overclocked i ran a benchmark on kombustor/3dmark/3dmark11 and my temps jumps straight up to 70c and rises to mad.gif 80-85 and has even hit 88c this seems really high for not even having a overclock on it?
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