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At least MSI didn't print on the box that temperature would not be a limiting factor, but I can already see the posts griping about how MSI blew up their cards by allowing voltage control.
Bank it.
When I bought the things, I hadn't had a new video card since BFG 6800 OC Ultra. A factory OC card with a little better performance than reference. Cost about $600 back in 04. So when I decided to build a new rig, 680 Lightning had just come out. So I just bought a factory OC card that seemed to have a little better performance than reference. Cost about $600, but I wanted to try SLI. The 6800 was the last of the AGP cards.
I didn't even know about voltage control, but thanks to the tireless efforts of posters griping about not having it, I became aware. And of course I resented not having it, even though I wasn't even sure I'd need it. I'd paid for it at any rate.
So I took every opportunity to gripe about it in as many posts on as many forums as I could. Oh wait. I didn't do that. I just waited until a definitive answer could be had, and if MSI couldn't deliver, I'd complain to them, not pounding my keyboard bloody on the internet.
Not much drama there, probably why I'm not much good at this forum thing.

Software voltage is a fairly new thing, very few nvidia cards ever had any kind of voltage control until the 400 series, up till then it was pretty much all hardmodding. AB 2.2.3 probably won't have enough voltage to cook cards, MSI doesnb't really want lots of RMAs so tends to limit the max voltage to fairly safe limits in public releases (I say fairly safe because someone will probably manage to do damage).
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Of course, a mom joke. I didn't expect any less. Litter this thread more with your whining, you bad ass you thumb.gif

GnarlyCharlie is more like sarcastic comic relief, complaining about complainers (really must not be used to the forum thing biggrin.gif )
    
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Of course, a mom joke. I didn't expect any less. Litter this thread more with your whining, you bad ass you thumb.gif

I wanted to trash the DCII thread, but not enough people own them to even get their own thread going.
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Not even on the PE thread sadsmiley.gif
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Not even on the PE thread sadsmiley.gif
Yeah not alot of people own them, sucks because they are great cards!
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Any word on a water block? I have money to buy a 680 now and i want the lightning. Should I wait just a little longer or just go ahead and buy a ref. 680.
I would wait. When the voltage unlocks on these and its under water no other single card can even try to compete with it, (especially with 1300+ a norm on AIR)
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Any word on a water block? I have money to buy a 680 now and i want the lightning. Should I wait just a little longer or just go ahead and buy a ref. 680.
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Not much point to water cooling the reference 680's because of the locked down voltages. Water cooling the Lightning might have very nice results however...
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Not much point to water cooling the reference 680's because of the locked down voltages. Water cooling the Lightning might have very nice results however...

That's one of my main reasons. Either way w/e I can get will be water cooled. Looking for silence an aesthetics on this one. But this card under water would be so nice.biggrin.gif
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No sweat. I don't think moaners on the internet had one iota of influence on anything Unwinder did. Read his posts, he hates moaners. People that directly contacted MSI over the issue might have had some influence.
When I posted my previous reply, I was not aware that Unwinder had even commented on the issue. I unfortunately have to work most days. I think it's funny, not 24hrs ago some guy was posting how Unwinder said the software voltage mod probably wouldn't work. Now we get a post that it took him all of a couple of hours to crack it. But hey, he probably felt the need to gripe about something he didn't even own.
And to think, I could have RMA'd my cards. Whoops.
Terrible news, really. So many people have made a vocation of griping about this voltage issue, now they will have to find something else to latch onto. Pity.

Talk about taking it out of context. I simply said that Unwinder said that it might not work without problems even if he gets it to work. And I quote: "NVIDIA changed I2C access way on 600 series. So it may take longer, I'm still not sure myself if it will be possible without problems."

So please, read the actual post before complaining about it :|.
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Not much point to water cooling the reference 680's because of the locked down voltages. Water cooling the Lightning might have very nice results however...
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That's one of my main reasons. Either way w/e I can get will be water cooled. Looking for silence an aesthetics on this one. But this card under water would be so nice.biggrin.gif

Silence & aesthetics would be the main reason right now, I put a lightning on water & gained about 20Mhz over the stock cooler. Worthwhile since I had the block here anyway, would not have been as worthwhile if I was buying one just for better clocks. It was a universal block, so no water on the mem or mosfets, just left the stock plate on & used case fans to cool it.
    
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Software voltage is a fairly new thing, very few nvidia cards ever had any kind of voltage control until the 400 series, up till then it was pretty much all hardmodding. AB 2.2.3 probably won't have enough voltage to cook cards, MSI doesnb't really want lots of RMAs so tends to limit the max voltage to fairly safe limits in public releases (I say fairly safe because someone will probably manage to do damage).
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Erm... The entire 200 series (or at least all the ones that weren't relabeled 8000 series) all had software voltage control. I can't speak about anything before that because I was mainly ATi up until that point, but I know I've seen software voltage control on some cards as early as windows XP.
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