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Hmm, I'm not sure that will work. If you really meant glue, you can only glue acrylic with a solvent weld. I would test it before ordering a bunch if its not too late.
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naw, I'll find another use (probably involving copper piping). But yeah, I just tested bending the acrylic pipe with the butane torch on a very weak flame and it didn't bend. I got it maleable (it turned an opaque white for a moment) but if I tried to bend it, it would collapse on itself or form ridges. Maybe I got the wrong material (this one has a slightly blue-ish hue to it) or I'm doing it wrong. I think I need more practice.

Anyways, I know of a way to seal the acrylic tubing inside the fitting. You need to remove the innermost of the two o-rings, insert the pipe just enough so the tip align with the ridge where the o-ring would be and, using a hot metal tip, soften the acrylic and expand it so the tip would enter the ridge. Once cooled, it wouldn't be glued in place, would still turn in the fitting but it probably would be very hard to remove. I need to test this idea first. It might demand a bit of patience, but might work and look better than push-fittings.

I just need to know the industrial name for the material of the pipe you guys are using. I think the acrylic tubes I got are of a low quality material. If I can get the specifics, it might help
Edited by Willi - 12/12/12 at 1:07pm
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naw, I'll find another use (probably involving copper piping). But yeah, I just tested bending the acrylic pipe with the butane torch on a very weak flame and it didn't bend. I got it maleable (it turned an opaque white for a moment) but if I tried to bend it, it would collapse on itself or form ridges. Maybe I got the wrong material (this one has a slightly blue-ish hue to it) or I'm doing it wrong. I think I need more practice.
Anyways, I know of a way to seal the acrylic tubing inside the fitting. You need to remove the innermost of the two o-rings, insert the pipe just enough so the tip align with the ridge where the o-ring would be and, using a hot metal tip, soften the acrylic and expand it so the tip would enter the ridge. Once cooled, it wouldn't be glued in place, would still turn in the fitting but it probably would be very hard to remove. I need to test this idea first. It might demand a bit of patience, but might work and look better than push-fittings.
I just need to know the industrial name for the material of the pipe you guys are using. I think the acrylic tubes I got are of a low quality material. If I can get the specifics, it might help



I would not use a torch for bending this type of tubing, you can't get a even heat were you need it without over heating it in spots and melting our blistering the tubing. A decent heat gun will do the job much better. And you should put the gun on a stand or prop it up so both hands are free to rotate the tubing for even heating.

The tubing is Acrylic 12mm OD x 8mm ID

I received a few PMs asking how I measured and got the straight angles. I used a caliper to measure the distance from fitting to fitting the tranfured that to a jig I made out of two squares.


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Was asked to write this up from my experience but I thought I would share it here since it's relevant to the thread.

Fittings a tubing...
 
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here's another option for fittings...


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Was asked to write this up from my experience but I thought I would share it here since it's relevant to the thread.

Fittings a tubing...

You missed some...

http://catalogue.camozzi.com/Explorer.aspx?u_code=4_1_5_36_0&import_key=6512+10-1%2f4-M&type=Content




http://koolance.com/nozzle-single-for-od-10mm-3-8in-soft-copper-pipe




The push fit is still the best tho.
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I don't have experience with those ones though. But yes, I am missing quite a few. thumb.gif
 
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I have a question for you guys that know more about copper tubing than me, on this website they list under copper metric seamless tubing a straight "non bendable" tube and a "bendable with bender" coil. Which would you want to use for watercooling? Is the straight tube really un-bendable and would the coiled tubing be to soft for push fittings? The only reason I ask is my build needs some 180 degree bends and hard piping would work best and I just don't want to order some that I cant bend and later plate. Thanks for any insight you might have biggrin.gif

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-metal-tubing/=krls2a
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I have barely started getting back into using copper pipe instead of some type of "plastic tubing".You have to have a real desire to get good at the bending process.It is so easy to start a bend going the wrong way.I like to practice with 3/16 brake line while getting a feeling for the bending process.Make sure you order extra "ferrels" as they become fixed to the pipe and cannot be used again (and they are only .69).I will say you will learn a lot with the bending process,I think all the cost and effort is worth it. I picked up the bender for 1/2 stainless pipe (it has really long handles and was not the best choice). When I specify my 1/2 copper pipe I ask for the softest stuff they have (it seems this means pipe used for refridgeration.
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I have barely started getting back into using copper pipe instead of some type of "plastic tubing".You have to have a real desire to get good at the bending process.It is so easy to start a bend going the wrong way.I like to practice with 3/16 brake line while getting a feeling for the bending process.Make sure you order extra "ferrels" as they become fixed to the pipe and cannot be used again (and they are only .69).I will say you will learn a lot with the bending process,I think all the cost and effort is worth it. I picked up the bender for 1/2 stainless pipe (it has really long handles and was not the best choice). When I specify my 1/2 copper pipe I ask for the softest stuff they have (it seems this means pipe used for refridgeration.


I'm curious as to which type of copper tubing you would want to use with the push type fittings not the compression and ferrel style. I kinda of want to go with stainless but its so expensive.
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