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I use only the soft.Flattening has not been a problem(I have a quality bender,thing cost 90.00).You straighten the coiled out by cutting off the lenght you need then rolling it on a flat surface (the concrete floor works very well).The more you roll it on the concrete floor the straighter it gets.

The compression fittings shown by skyhigh seal on the inside of the plastic tubing hence it is called "10mm". Real hard (or semi hard) copper pipe comes in various sizes.The 1/2" stuff that is being compared to the 10mm is 12.7mm(O.D.) and it seals on the ferrel,on the outside. Compression fittings for plastic tubing are not the same as compression fittings for copper pipe (we have had this discussion for several years).

I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.
Edited by skyhigh2004 - 12/27/12 at 2:43pm
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Pepe. The Koolance site sells the fittings for 1/4 3/8 and 1/2. I have bought these fittings and they are quality (they run right at 10.00 each). One side screws into our G1/4 and the other side comes with the ferrel and the jam nut.I am getting the feeling that Koolance may drop this line (OK it is only a feeling but they are dropping a lot of fittings). Going with copper pipe has such a cool look but it is labor intensive (unless you are a "wizz" with that bender). I do want to try a cpu loop in 1/4.My feeling is the 1/4 just may introduce problems in a cpu loop,but I am willing to try and see.The 1/4 pipe will be cheaper also.If you go to the Koolance site and cant find them let me know.Oh yeah,you want to order some extra ferrels (in the correct size) as mistakes happen.My big mistake is bending 180 opposite of what I want.You can mock up the bends you need for you pipe with a piece of stiff wire (usually used for welding)
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Me and you both!
Hate to think how many miles of tube I have cut,bent and welded in my time.....

make that 3. 2nd gen. family business owner, going on 15 years personally. thumb.gif
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Just wanted to chime in and say that this thread has helped me make the jump into copper piping my build. I was very hesitant but took the plunge.

I was looking to purchase from McMaster but went with coppertubingsales.com. The prices were a little cheaper and good service. I went with the Bitspower SLI fittings. I know there is risk since there is no clamping but on my test cut and fitting, this thing isn't coming off. The double O-Ring is very snug against the 12mm copper tubing.

Additionally, with a quality bender (mine was $90) then the bends will come out magnificently.

I did a test bend of 160-70 degree bend, I didn't go to 180 for some goodball reason but whatever. It's a test piece.


There is no flattening and just great even bends.

Now just need time to finish this projectso I can bend away biggrin.gif
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Just wanted to chime in and say that this thread has helped me make the jump into copper piping my build. I was very hesitant but took the plunge.

I was looking to purchase from McMaster but went with coppertubingsales.com. The prices were a little cheaper and good service. I went with the Bitspower SLI fittings. I know there is risk since there is no clamping but on my test cut and fitting, this thing isn't coming off. The double O-Ring is very snug against the 12mm copper tubing.

Additionally, with a quality bender (mine was $90) then the bends will come out magnificently.

I did a test bend of 160-70 degree bend, I didn't go to 180 for some goodball reason but whatever. It's a test piece.


There is no flattening and just great even bends.

Now just need time to finish this projectso I can bend away biggrin.gif

Im glad it helped,rep it if you can.
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I rep'd it a while back. Great thread
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I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.

Because I do not have the rights to copy and paste the page with these fittings here, I will not. The text that goes along with the fittings for the 10mm 0.D. (3/8") copper pipe state they are for use with a ferrel. As far as looks go, these fittings follow the theme of any of Koolances fittings and for that matter any of the fittings used industry wide.I really doubt you are going to find adaquate sealing using a copper pipe in place of where a piece of plastic tubing is intended. I would suggest not ordering all that you need until you actually see the sealing effect
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I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.

Because I do not have the rights to copy and paste the page with these fittings here, I will not. The text that goes along with the fittings for the 10mm 0.D. (3/8") copper pipe state they are for use with a ferrel. As far as looks go, these fittings follow the theme of any of Koolances fittings and for that matter any of the fittings used industry wide.I really doubt you are going to find adaquate sealing using a copper pipe in place of where a piece of plastic tubing is intended. I would suggest not ordering all that you need until you actually see the seaking effect

Well the OP did as this guide was written using chrome plated tubing (harder than plain copper) and the fittings I quoted the OP linking. I'm pretty confused as to what your trying to say in the rest of your post. The push fittings B Negative linked to work with copper tubing in 10mm OD, which is not the same as 3/8. 3/8 is actually 9.525mm. The 10mm tubing I linked has an OD tolerance of 0.010 mm so definitely not the same size as 3/8 tubing.
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One more time.Compression fittings designed to be used with copper pipe are not the same as compression fittings designed to be used with plastic tubing.If you use a compression fitting designed to be used on plastic tubing on copper pipe,it will leak.

EDIT: When you look at the description of the fittings for copper pipe on the Koolance site is there any indication that they also will work with plastic tubing? Looking at it the other way,when you look at the description of compression fittings designed to be used with plastic tubing is the any indication that they will also work with copper pipe?

EDIT. I have here at home some compression fittings designed to be used with1/2 plastic tubing.I also have some pieces of 1/2 copper pipe (the soft stuff) it is obvious that the two will not work together.When my camera batteries charge up I will take some pics.I also have some 1/2 plastic tubing that is designed to be used with these fittings.As well as still pictures will allow I will try and show you.
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One more time.Compression fittings designed to be used with copper pipe are not the same as compression fittings designed to be used with plastic tubing.If you use a compression fitting designed to be used on plastic tubing on copper pipe,it will leak.

I've worked with both types of fittings numerous times at my job. I never had a question about how to use a certain fitting or the differences between them. My only question was if a certain type of tubing was bendable or not despite a websites description. Thanks for putting the info out there for someone who may need it but its irrelevant to my question which was already answered.
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