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I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.

Pictures? Links?
This could be interesting.
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I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.

Pictures? Links?
This could be interesting.

Its all linked in the OP and third post.
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I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.

Pictures? Links?
This could be interesting.

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Originally Posted by PepeLapiu View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by skyhigh2004 View Post

I'm talking about using 10mm OD metric copper tubing with 10mm OD push fittings. I'm not interested in ferrel or standard compression fittings at all, they are way to ugly for a PC build IMHO.

Pictures? Links?
This could be interesting.

Its all linked in the OP and third post.

This is the finished result.
This has been transported to LAN shows undrained and no leaks.



To clear all this confusion up,there are 3 readily available fittings for this that dont require tools other than a spanner.

1. Pushfit fittings,these are for 10mm tube or 12mm tube. do not use imperial tube. These can be used with plastic tube if the plastic tube has a metal insert.



2. Bitspower sli fittings,these work with 12mm tube only,do not use a imperial tube. These cannot be used with plastic flexible tube



3. Compression fittings. These are not for use with plastic flexible tube,rigid metal tube only.









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One more time.Compression fittings designed to be used with copper pipe are not the same as compression fittings designed to be used with plastic tubing.If you use a compression fitting designed to be used on plastic tubing on copper pipe,it will leak.
EDIT: When you look at the description of the fittings for copper pipe on the Koolance site is there any indication that they also will work with plastic tubing? Looking at it the other way,when you look at the description of compression fittings designed to be used with plastic tubing is the any indication that they will also work with copper pipe?
EDIT. I have here at home some compression fittings designed to be used with1/2 plastic tubing.I also have some pieces of 1/2 copper pipe (the soft stuff) it is obvious that the two will not work together.When my camera batteries charge up I will take some pics.I also have some 1/2 plastic tubing that is designed to be used with these fittings.As well as still pictures will allow I will try and show you.
Why do you keep going on about compression fittings? No one here is considering using compression fittings of any kind. Most of us here like the look of copper tubing but want a convenient and more secure alternative to the Bitspower fittings. Yes, the push fit fittings are designed for flexible plastic tubing but they actually work pretty well for softer metals. I use them along with flexible tubing at work for hooking up pneumatics and to be honest, they seem to work better with copper tube. Granted I'm using much higher pressures at work, but with a good yank I can pull the tubing right out of the fitting. OTOH the copper tubing won't budge even with all my might. The o-ring seals well and with the lock ring it's gotta be better than the SLI fittings. And anyways if I wanted truly secure connections with copper I definitely wouldn't be using compression fittings, I'd get out my flaring tools and do it properly.
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I use only #3,looks great,easy to fit,no problem handling the pressures in a watercooled system.I think the issue was this being the first mention of push fit connectors (really cheesy in my eyes).If looks are what you are going for #1 is a clear loser #2 should not be in the building #3 takes home all the prizes.
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Most of us here like the look of copper tubing but want a convenient and more secure alternative to the Bitspower fittings.

Oh! The Bitspower fitting is not convenient or secure?
Because it would look the best of all 3 in my build.
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I use only #3,looks great,easy to fit,no problem handling the pressures in a watercooled system.I think the issue was this being the first mention of push fit connectors (really cheesy in my eyes).If looks are what you are going for #1 is a clear loser #2 should not be in the building #3 takes home all the prizes.

Then you dont know very much.....
There is no pressure of any worth in a WC loop,certainly nothing that will tax any of those fittings.
Those compression fittings have to be torqued tight in place and you run the risk of damaging any threads not made of metal.
If the fitting is in an awkward position then you can forget using those fittings as you cant get 2 spanners in to tighten them.
They WILL leak if not torqued down enough and you must have the olive replaced every time you change something.

Push fit wins all day long,15 bar rated fitting thats easy to use,its what i use and recommend.

Why do you think Koolance are dropping those fittings?
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The type of leaks you get with the ferrel fitting is the dreaded 1 drop every 30 seconds.At times these can be frustrating.Perhaps B Negative can inform shinj that he does not have to get out his flaring tools "to do the job properly".I have not been invited into any Koolance inventory reduction meetings. I do like the quick take down ability with #3 and I have learned my loop disassembly order so that a backup wrench can always be used.You just have to learn you loop better if you are finding "spanner" positioning a challenge.Olives (or as Koolance sells them, ferrels) are only .69 cents,I can deal with that cost.
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The type of leaks you get with the ferrel fitting is the dreaded 1 drop every 30 seconds.At times these can be frustrating.Perhaps B Negative can inform shinj that he does not have to get out his flaring tools "to do the job properly".I have not been invited into any Koolance inventory reduction meetings. I do like the quick take down ability with #3 and I have learned my loop disassembly order so that a backup wrench can always be used.You just have to learn you loop better if you are finding "spanner" positioning a challenge.Olives (or as Koolance sells them, ferrels) are only .69 cents,I can deal with that cost.

Pics of this loop that you keep going on about please.

I have done 3 loops with copper tubing,i am also a plumber of a number of years,I still would use pushfit over compression fittings for this purpose
Far easier to disassemble for maintenance and no need to 'learn my loop' as you put it.
Learn to accept that not everyone thinks as you do.
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How about those flaring tools needed "to do the job properly".
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