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That tubing is 1/4" or about 6 mm.
No way you are going to fit a 10mm fitting to a 6 mm tube.
Besides, 6 mm OD and 1 mm wall will give you a 4 mm ID tube. That's way too small.
I mean I find my 10 mm OD 1 mm wall tubes small. Yours would be 4 times smaller, way too small. I would not go smaller than 8 mm ID (or around 3/8" ID)

Ya, I realized my mistake earlier when I woke up. I tried to put this list together at midnight well sick with the flu. Not exactly the best time to be thinking.

I found the 10mm tubing that I like I just have a new question.

There is two options for the 10mm, weld or compression fittings. What is the difference and would it really make a difference for something like this to use the weld fit? I only ask since its half the price.
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Here is what I mean: typical water coolers will use 1/2 inch ID plastic tubing. That would give you a 123 mm square of flow area.
My pipes, which I consider to be a bit on the small side, are 10 mm OD and 1 mm wall. That gives you around 50 mm square of flow area - 60% less flow area when comparing to the popular 1/2 inch tubes.
I intend to double up most of my pipes with this fitting to counter the smallish pipes:
http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/product_info.php/info/p1002_10mm-G1-4-Y-plug-fitting-black.html

Now you want to use 6 mm OD pipes with 1 mm walls. That gives us a 4 mm ID for a
flow area of less than 13 mm square. Four times less than my smallish pipes and ten times less than the popular 1/2 inch tubing.

You would have to use 4 of your pipes to get as good a flow as my 10 mm pipes and that's still not enought in my books.

Go with at least 8 mm ID pipes I say, the very strict minimum to me.
Edited by PepeLapiu - 1/5/13 at 2:18pm
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Sorry for the duplicate post. My phone keeps doing that.
Edited by PepeLapiu - 1/5/13 at 2:16pm
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Here is what I mean: typical water coolers will use 1/2 inch ID plastic tubing. That would give you a 123 mm square of flow area.
My pipes, which I consider to be a bit on the small side, are 10 mm OD and 1 mm wall. That gives you around 50 mm square of flow area - 60 less flow area when comparing to the popular 1/2 inch tubes.
I intend to double up most of my pipes with this fitting to counter the smallish pipes:
http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/product_info.php/info/p1002_10mm-G1-4-Y-plug-fitting-black.html
Now you want to use 6 mm OD pipes with 1 mm walls. That gives us a 4 mm ID for a
flow area of less than 13 mm square. Four times less than my smallish pipes and ten times less than the popular 1/2 inch tubing.
You would have to use 4 of your pipes to get as good a flow as my 10 mm pipes and that's still not enought in my books.
Go with at least 8 mm ID pipes I say, the very strict minimum to me.

As I said above, I realized my mistake and have adjusted accordingly to 10mm.

Now the double piping Idea is interesting, cant wait to see it finished.

And I know it wont make to much of a difference but this is all going into a micro-atx build so the length between radiator and heat sinks wont be that far.
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Tube bore plays very little part in flow rates or temps.
Between 13mm and 8mm tube is around 0.5c.
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I found the 10mm tubing that I like I just have a new question.
There is two options for the 10mm, weld or compression fittings. What is the difference and would it really make a difference for something like this to use the weld fit? I only ask since its half the price.

I am not experienced with hard pipes since this is going to be my first build with hard pipes. Be Negative will probably know more.

However, I am experienced with push fit fittings from work. There the push fit fittings are used for 200 psi compressed air. And I can say I know those types of fittings and I like them so that's what I'm going with.

Look them up, the loop would likely be more easily taken apart with push fits then with welded fittings.

http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/index.php/cat/c456_10mm.html
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Tube bore plays very little part in flow rates or temps.
Between 13mm and 8mm tube is around 0.5c.

Yeah, but below 8 mm it becomes a challenge to get a flow rate of 1 or 1.5 gpm.
Down to a certain size there are no noticeable performance drop, but there has to be an acceptable threshold.
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I am not experienced with hard pipes since this is going to be my first build with hard pipes. Be Negative will probably know more.
However, I am experienced with push fit fittings from work. There the push fit fittings are used for 200 psi compressed air. And I can say I know those types of fittings and I like them so that's what I'm going with.
Look them up, the loop would likely be more easily taken apart with push fits then with welded fittings.
http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/index.php/cat/c456_10mm.html

Well that's the thing, I want to use the push fittings, its just the tubing for push fit is 2x as much as weld fit so I was just curious what the difference was?
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if the weld-fittings you're talking about are similar to this then you got a problem, since you'll have to weld the pipe to the fitting (literally) and that might be a serious issue when you start your final build.

I'd go with push-fittings (unfortunately I cant find it in my country, since they sell it by a 100pieces minimum). They are safer and hold the pipe in place, and some even look good.
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if the weld-fittings you're talking about are similar to this then you got a problem, since you'll have to weld the pipe to the fitting (literally) and that might be a serious issue when you start your final build.
I'd go with push-fittings (unfortunately I cant find it in my country, since they sell it by a 100pieces minimum). They are safer and hold the pipe in place, and some even look good.

Well thats the issue, I have no idea what they actually mean because they are talking about the tubing, not the actual fittings. If you go to this link:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-metal-tubing/=kx6tgw

And click on the "metric smooth-bore stainless steel tubing", its all the way to the right, second from the top, they have the two types of pipe. I cant find any info on what the difference is between the two of them.
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