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I am a first-time poster and first-time builder, so please excuse me if I make any forum mistakes and/or ask ridiculous questions; I am very new to the computer building world.

Background: I have an Asus X83v laptop that just isn't cutting it anymore for performance. This, along with other problems (i.e. me trashing the battery) have lead me to be desirous of a computer that will have as much power as money will allow and will be capable of lasting a long time. I intend on using this computer primarily for gaming, though I may want to host gaming server(s) for games such as Minecraft. Along with this, my budget is around 1300$.

I have found many potential solutions to this problem and have stumbled upon 3 viable solutions.

The First: ASUS N76VZ-DS71 http://www.powernotebooks.com/configure.php?special=1294
With the following options selected different:
System Memory changed to 16GB
Secondary HD changed to NONE (I might add the HD from my Asus [288GB] to it)
Optical Drive Changed to Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive (I don't need a Blu-Ray Player)

Total: 1365.76
This option would be useful due to the simple fact that I will be living on a college campus and portability is desirable. This, however should not be a limiting factor by the fact that if I go with a desktop I have have a small laptop to use for classes and assignments and documents. I also enjoy the Asus brand quite a bit.

The Second: A Custom Build

Asus Sabertooth Z77 Motherboard
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2406886&csid=_61
240
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2Gb Video Card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=982626&csid=_61
255
Intel i7-2600K CPU
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7073160&csid=_61
300
Corsair CWCH60 Cooler
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7335485&csid=_61
70
Corsair Vengeance 16Gb 1600MHz RAM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7025816&Sku=C13-5706&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=iFudSkud_Rc-7yGSVEiYaK7cCSTyvs2u9g
97
Cooler Master Case
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6430030&sku=C283-3122
50
Ultra LSP650 650-Watt Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276573&sku=ULT-LSP650
55
Crucial m4 2.5" Solid State Drive - 64GB, SATA III 6Gb/s
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=365474&sku=C19-8024
80
I Will Use HD from Asus X83v as Secondary HD (288GB)
I Will use my HD 1080p TV as a monitor
Use extra copy of Windows, Office
mouse, keyboard, headphones/speakers = meh
Total Cost: $1,176.92
I've checked the compatibility of all the components and everything seems okay. I would like to find out what you guys think the bottleneck of this build would be as I have about 130$ left to spend on the build.

Third Option: An Asus Sabertooth Barebones Kit http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2406886&csid=_61
To This I would have to add a Video Card, Probably the EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2Gb Video Card
The benefits of this build is that it comes with a more powerful processor, the i5-3570k, though from the reviews I have read it does not seem much better than the i7-2600 other than power consumption. It also comes with less RAM, but it does come with a bigger SSD drive and a 1 TB Secondary Hard Drive. I could probably also sell the Blu-Ray Player for a few bucks.
Total Cost: Around 1447 with Video Card, 8GB RAM minus the Blu-Ray

Any input would be greatly appreciated!
-Nickoli77
Edited by Nickoli77 - 7/10/12 at 3:53pm
post #2 of 35
Personally there are a couple changes I would make to your proposed Z77 build
- 2600K, not 2600
- Better PSU, one that isn't from Ultra. Your links aren't working properly but here's one from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071
More than you need for the build but is a very solid unit

The M4 is a good choice for a SSD.
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post #3 of 35
Links dont work, you copy pasted from another forum didnt ya XD
that aside...
apples and oranges, don't compare laptops and desktops. Also, I'd expand your retailers. Look at amazon.com, us.ncix.com, newegg.com for components aswell. If you pigeon hole yourself to one retailer when system building, you will waste alot of money.
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Keep this for me, I am going to go home and then I will build you a EPIC computer for about 900$ and leave you room to pick up a nice little Asus laptop to take with you to class @ the 14 inch type smile.gif


HDD - 1.5 tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337

GPU - 670 gtx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423

CPU - this is a Xeon it is the same chip as the 3770 just 120$ cheaper smile.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286

MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023

Mem - People try and bash on these... this are rock solid and last! got three sets at the house and love them!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

AND THEN LAPTOP!!!!
Notebook 14 inch still able to play some games with the intergrated 3000 GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215397


You total with all that is: $1,323.92 Without the notebook it is 923$. (none of this prices include the Mail in rebates or the instant 10$ or 5$ off some of the items have, so there is more saving for you.)

You dont even know how fast this rig is .... it is ligit.Faster then the build you have up there and will KILL any thing u throw at it!
Edited by Jackeduphard - 7/10/12 at 4:23pm
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Do you need the i7? Are you working with video-editing, AutoCAD or similar programs? If not you can save $100 by switching to a 2500k or 3570k.
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Thanks for the replies all and I fixed the links ^.^ I kinda (maybe) did copy this from another forum ^.^ I would also love the details on your 900$ build Jackeduphard
thehidecheck I looked around for the components elsewhere and I honestly could not find them cheaper.
selectstriker2 Thanks for catching that error and thanks for the suggestion. is Ultra not a good company?
Edited by Nickoli77 - 7/10/12 at 3:49pm
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I plan on using it primarily for gaming, but I also hope to host a server for minecraft and possibly other games as they come along/ into my interest
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Not sure about Ultra as a company (CS, support, RMA that type of thing) but their PSU's are total garbage units. The one I linked to is a solid PSU
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Originally Posted by Jackeduphard View Post

Keep this for me, I am going to go home and then I will build you a EPIC computer for about 900$ and leave you room to pick up a nice little Asus laptop to take with you to class @ the 14 inch type smile.gif
HDD - 1.5 tb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337
GPU - 670 gtx
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423
CPU - this is a Xeon it is the same chip as the 3770 just 120$ cheaper smile.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117286
MoBo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157303
Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023
Mem - People try and bash on these... this are rock solid and last! got three sets at the house and love them!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
AND THEN LAPTOP!!!!
Notebook 14 inch still able to play some games with the intergrated 3000 GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215397
You total with all that is: $1,323.92 Without the notebook it is 923$. (none of this prices include the Mail in rebates or the instant 10$ or 5$ off some of the items have, so there is more saving for you.)
You dont even know how fast this rig is .... it is ligit.Faster then the build you have up there and will KILL any thing u throw at it!


OK read my OP and see what I have to say smile.gif best of luck !

I pull @ peek around 380watts peek power JUST A FYI! so power supply all u need is a good company brand name tongue.gif

Plus a 3770k that runs cooler and draws less power (the XEON has a unlocked Multiplayer btw! just like the 3770k ) ... and a 670gtx .... man you have the best of both worlds~!!

And if you say there is no CD DRIVE I AM GOING TO KICK YOU IN THE MOUTH!

lol. But really all you need is a thumb drive and a the Windows ISO and if you need help with that stuff hit me up and I can send you direct link to MS for the ISO's
Edited by Jackeduphard - 7/10/12 at 5:05pm
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@Jackeduphard thanks for the suggestions! I'll take a look at those components. I should be able to update tomorrow.
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