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    Phenom II x6 1045t (2.7GHz)
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    Bulldozer FX-6100 (3.3GHz)
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post #131 of 266
So I guess you are saying that you are afraid to post a game benchmark because you know that the antique rig you are using would get trounced, that it is not even capable of playing a modern game. I understand. I can underclock my 6790 by the way. I know we could find some performance level equilibrium between what you have and what I have graphics wise. I think they include the benchmark in the Shogun 2 Demo, which is completely free to download.
    
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With what kind of cooling can you hit 4300 Mhz??? I bet you are pulling a heck of a lot more wattage than I am @ 4.6Mhz on this 4170. And you are NOT running cooler at those extreme OCs on a Phenom than I am on this 4170 either. I am well aware of what it takes to get Phenoms up past 4.0 Ghz.
Again: Post some game benchmarks and save the pontificating. Plenty of that here already.
I can get a bit over 4Ghz with a $30 Hyper 212+/EVO,bump the NB to 3000Mhz,it's tons faster than a FX-4100,though I'd sure hope so because it cost more.
I'm not even going to bother benching against you because your dual 67090's in your lopsided system (CF cards yet a little FX 4 core aka dual core) are faster than my single 560Ti. When you have to OC your chip to be faster than the previous gen running at stock,you know there's something wrong.
Edited by Heavy MG - 7/11/12 at 9:09am
    
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With what kind of cooling can you hit 4300 Mhz??? I bet you are pulling a heck of a lot more wattage than I am @ 4.6Mhz on this 4170. And you are NOT running cooler at those extreme OCs on a Phenom than I am on this 4170 either. I am well aware of what it takes to get Phenoms up past 4.0 Ghz.
Again: Post some game benchmarks and save the pontificating. Plenty of that here already.
I can get a bit over 4Ghz with a $30 Hyper 212+/EVO,bump the NB to 3000Mhz,it's tons faster than a FX-4100,though I'd sure hope so because it cost more.

Your 1090 would be faster at what? I know for a fact that you are not going to touch the bandwidth that I have.

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Beat that score . Seriously. All of you with Phenoms have at it. Let's see it. If you say that you have higher bandwidth then prove it. The only way you will come close is by either using ultra-expensive bleeding edge RAM at$100+ / 8 GB or using exotic cooling like DICE or LN2. Take a look a few pages back on this thread and look at Smuckleys MaxxMemm ranking graphic I posted. Same Samsung memory. Only difference is I have all 4 slots filled with 4 GB sticks and he is using two. My rig blows him away even in spite of my rig having double the amount of RAM. I have not even tried to tweek this thing at all and I know through before and after testing I will get a boost of ~.5 GB/s if I pull out two sticks. Smuckly admits that his ranking MaxxMemm score is not what he considers daily-driver settings on his 960, but rather speed run settings too. My settings are completely daily driver. Anybody can get this fast with one click of the mouse on a 4170 and a sub-$100 970 mobo, to get the kind of performance that will even compete with the 4170 requires expert OCing ability and probably lots of expensive cooling and high-endMobo solutions for a Phenom.
Edited by Jagged_Steel - 7/11/12 at 9:24am
    
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pow3rtr1p......if you can hold off for one day, i'll do a bunch of benchies with various cards today and post them tonight thumb.gif
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post #135 of 266
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Your 1090 would be faster at what? I know for a fact that you are not going to touch the bandwidth that I have.
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Beat that score . Seriously. All of you with Phenoms have at it. Let's see it.
All you're posting are useless memory benchmarks again and again,what is that telling me? Your score tells me you have a slightly faster IMC,it isn't going to make your cpu render or encode any faster,make your FPS any smoother,etc.
Rendering and encoding VERY relevant and can give you an idea at how good the cpu would be at processor intensive gaming.
Please post something that is relevant to real world general tasks or gaming.
I'll bench with what I have but I'm not comfortable running overclocked atm due to the summer heat,even still a 1090T kicks the pants off of an FX.
Edited by Heavy MG - 7/11/12 at 9:17am
    
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So I guess you are saying that you are afraid to post a game benchmark because you know that the antique rig you are using would get trounced, that it is not even capable of playing a modern game. I understand. I can underclock my 6790 by the way. I know we could find some performance level equilibrium between what you have and what I have graphics wise. I think they include the benchmark in the Shogun 2 Demo, which is completely free to download.

Not afraid at all. Of course I would get trounced. You set up a rig to do certain things, as did I. I could care less if you can run the Shogun 2 demo faster than I can, and will happily concede that you "win" on that issue without wasting my time and bandwidth to prove something that I could give two *****s less about. If I cared about playing a modern game at 1080p, then I'd get an FX-8120, a 7970, and an LCD monitor. But I care more about running multithreaded productivity software that relates to my work, video encoding and rendering, and this machine also is used for music, TV viewing, and movies. Basically everything except playing games, which is something I rarely have the time or inclination to do. And I like the display that my "antique" CRT puts out and am actually trying to locate another one to run a dual configuration--the only reason I even have the 3870 X2.

When the FX-8350 arrives, I will be getting one. Until then, I'm perfectly happy with what I have.
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Your 1090 would be faster at what? I know for a fact that you are not going to touch the bandwidth that I have.
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Beat that score . Seriously. All of you with Phenoms have at it. Let's see it. If you say that you have higher bandwidth then prove it. The only way you will come close is by either using ultra-expensive bleeding edge RAM at$100+ / 8 GB or using exotic cooling like DICE or LN2. Take a look a few pages back on this thread and look at Smuckleys MaxxMemm ranking graphic I posted. Same memory. Only difference is I have all 4 slots filled with 4 GB sticks and he is using two. My rig blows him away even in spite of my rig having double the amount of RAM. I have not even tried to tweek this thing at all and I know through before and after testing I will get a boost of ~.5 GB/s if I pull out two sticks. Smuckly admits that his ranking MaxxMemm score is not what he considers daily-driver settings on his 960, but rather speed run settings too.

LOL who cares about memory benchmarks? You're stating that you want some gaming benchmarks, and you're yet posting the most irrelevant benchmarks? rolleyes.gif
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LOL who cares about memory benchmarks? You're stating that you want some gaming benchmarks, and you're yet posting the most irrelevant benchmarks? rolleyes.gif

I'm trying to figure that out myself. Bulldozer's problem isn't memory bandwidth, it's that it can't do enough with the data it gets out of memory fast enough. We've known all of that since last fall.
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Your 1090 would be faster at what? I know for a fact that you are not going to touch the bandwidth that I have.
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Beat that score . Seriously. All of you with Phenoms have at it. Let's see it.
All you're posting are useless memory benchmarks again and again,what is that telling me? Your score tells me you have a slightly faster IMC,it isn't going to make your cpu render or encode any faster,make your FPS any smoother,etc.
Rendering and encoding VERY relevant and can give you an idea at how good the cpu would be at processor intensive gaming.
Please post something that is relevant to real world general tasks or gaming.
I'll bench with what I have but I'm not comfortable running overclocked atm due to the summer heat,even still a 1090T kicks the pants off of an FX.

Wrong, The one and only reason that I benchmark my memory is to tune my rig for Gaming. MaxxMem is a tool, not an E-Peen award to hang on the wall like Cinebench is. I have use for tools to help me get my rig in top form for the games I like, and I have no use for worthless E-Peen awards. If gathering E-Peen awards is your "game" then bully for you, have fun. I am a Gamer first and a PC builder/tuner only in a peripheral need to serve my Gaming. And you can quit parroting the "memory speed don't matter" crock of hooey too. It matters. If it does not to you, then fine, buy up gobs of garbage memory and pack your rig with it- Enjoy! In the meantime I will be rocking out games butter smooth with my 16 GB of Samsung WonderRAM tuned to perfection!
Edited by Jagged_Steel - 7/11/12 at 9:40am
    
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Well from what most say,the FX-4100 is essentially a dual core with 2 FPU's running in sort of a hyperthread mode,yet not. They're cores but not cores. For what it is,it isn't bad at all,I'd like to see a single core Cinebench run comparison.
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Here's some "all 4 Ghz" results..gee..hope Bubba doesn't have them copyrighted :lachen.gif
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Sorry am I reading this right? My Athlon 2 quad, yes ATHLON 2, running at 3.8Ghz at 1.55v is pawning an FX? No way! I got a 4.4 score on cinebench 11.5! Sorry guys but if Athlon beats FX then it is a no brainer that fx will be pawned by a Phenom 2. End of discussion! I would give some screen shots as proof cause I am sure guys will want proof but I my machine was killed by power surge two days ago. Will get a new machine in a couple of days and then I will post the screenshot!
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