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post #1 of 45
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Hey guys, I'm building a budget gaming computer, and I wanted a little advice on the parts I'm buying.

The parts are as listed:

ASRock 990FX Extreme3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157281
AZZA Helio 910 (I needed an aesthetically pleasing case, with a round fan mount in the door for a mod.)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=44542&vpn=CSAZ-910&manufacture=AZZA%20Technology&promoid=1360
EVGA 460 (Indeed a good card.)
http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20
AMD Phenom II 4x 965 BE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
Seagate Barracuda 1TB (The same I had picked out, yours was a tad cheaper.)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others
G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (Good choice on the RAM.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027
Edited by GordonFreemane - 7/11/12 at 9:05am
post #2 of 45

I don't see anything wrong.  The PSU is not the strongest but it will provide more than enough wattage for an APU.

post #3 of 45
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the fast reply. What if I added a few BitFenix Spectre fans? 3 to replace the stock 120mm fans, another 2 120mms, and a 200mm to replace the 180mm? Would the PSU still provide enough and more then?
post #4 of 45
Because of the current 460 sale over at evga, you can do much better than an APU. With that video card, you'll get graphics power above that of the theoretical maximum an APU can provide even with hybrid crossfire, and you'll get better CPU performance too.

CPU: i3-2120, $110 after promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077

MSI h67 mobo, $60 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130616&Tpk=msi%20h67a-g43

GPU: EVGA 460 ($94) (scroll to bottom of page)
http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20
& http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0007RXDDM/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1341974100&sr=8-1&keywords=molex+pci+power+adapter&condition=new (you need 1 of these w/the power supply below, unless you have a spare that came with a different video card)

RAM: 2x4gb ($40) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
or if you want to drop $20 off the build:
Kingston 2x2gb ($21) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41264&vpn=KVR1333D3N9K2%2F4G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1015

PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450c ($40) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO%2DECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1015
much more reliable than the PSU you had selected

Case: Merc Beta ($34)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63257&vpn=BFC%2DMRC%2D100%2DKKX2%2DRP&manufacture=BitFenix

DVD-burner ($15)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=69648&vpn=DVD%2DE818A7T%2FBLK%2FB%2FGEN&manufacture=ASUS

1TB Seagate Barracuda ($85)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others

Total: $463.

P.S. If you live near a microcenter you could drop another $70 off the top if you were willing to run a stock-speed Phenom II x4.
    
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post #5 of 45
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While your choices seem like a great build, I don't see how an APU is that bad. What exactly is the difference between an APU and a CPU? And seeing that the graphics card comes with the APU, how exactly does it "get graphics power above that of the theoretical maximum an APU can provide?"
post #6 of 45
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Originally Posted by GordonFreemane View Post

While your choices seem like a great build, I don't see how an APU is that bad. What exactly is the difference between an APU and a CPU? And seeing that the graphics card comes with the APU, how exactly does it "get graphics power above that of the theoretical maximum an APU can provide?"
An APU is a CPU and a graphics chip bound together. It's also an AMD coined term, since all Intel processors do the same thing (but the graphical power in the intel processors are rubbish).
Although an APU gives at least a bit of graphical power, the best you can get still will only get you playing starcraft II at low.

Getting a dedicated GPU (such as the excellent 460) is a must for any gamer. And people suggest the Phenon II X4 (such as a 965) above the more modern APU's (such as the A8) if you don't need the on-chip graphics of an APU and you can find it for less money.
post #7 of 45
Thread Starter 
Well the build I need is mostly for gaming and a few Photoshop/Paint.Net edits along the way. So hearing that it will only be able to run Starcraft II on low, is definitely bad news. But I really wanted to use AMD here, as my brother has one and he says it is great. If I were to choose a better CPU and GPU, how much would those run me?
post #8 of 45
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Originally Posted by MisterFred View Post

Because of the current 460 sale over at evga, you can do much better than an APU. With that video card, you'll get graphics power above that of the theoretical maximum an APU can provide even with hybrid crossfire, and you'll get better CPU performance too.
CPU: i3-2120, $110 after promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077
MSI h67 mobo, $60 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130616&Tpk=msi%20h67a-g43
GPU: EVGA 460 ($94) (scroll to bottom of page)
http://www.evga.com/products/prodlist.asp?switch=20
& http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0007RXDDM/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1341974100&sr=8-1&keywords=molex+pci+power+adapter&condition=new (you need 1 of these w/the power supply below, unless you have a spare that came with a different video card)
RAM: 2x4gb ($40) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424
or if you want to drop $20 off the build:
Kingston 2x2gb ($21) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41264&vpn=KVR1333D3N9K2%2F4G&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1015
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 450c ($40) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&vpn=NEO%2DECO450C&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1015
much more reliable than the PSU you had selected
Case: Merc Beta ($34)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63257&vpn=BFC%2DMRC%2D100%2DKKX2%2DRP&manufacture=BitFenix
DVD-burner ($15)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=69648&vpn=DVD%2DE818A7T%2FBLK%2FB%2FGEN&manufacture=ASUS
1TB Seagate Barracuda ($85)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&vpn=ST1000DM003&manufacture=Others
Total: $463.
P.S. If you live near a microcenter you could drop another $70 off the top if you were willing to run a stock-speed Phenom II x4.

^This.
post #9 of 45
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Originally Posted by GordonFreemane View Post

Well the build I need is mostly for gaming and a few Photoshop/Paint.Net edits along the way. So hearing that it will only be able to run Starcraft II on low, is definitely bad news. But I really wanted to use AMD here, as my brother has one and he says it is great. If I were to choose a better CPU and GPU, how much would those run me?
It runs SCII on low without a dedicated GPU. (so only using the graphical chip that comes within the APU).
Combined it with the suggested 460 and you'll play SCII on all it's glory and all it's horror.

MisterFred's suggested build is excellent. But you could go for a similar build but with an Phenom II X4 965, which performs about the same as the i3-2120.
post #10 of 45
Thread Starter 
I see. I'm not one for any Starcraft, but I guess I could wait a few more weeks for my paychecks and easily spend $600 or so. The case I've chosen though, is an indeed get as I've planned on modding it and doing some painting to make it a Half Life inspired case. Orange LEDs all the way.
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