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7/11/12 at 1:09am
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I was looking at some kingston hyper x 2133mhz DDR3 8gb kitsfor 65 dollars on the egg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104311

If should be able to afford this any time this year, i'm probably gonna replace the cheap 1333 DDR3 in my core 2, It has a P5E3 Deluxe. Tons of OC options and dividers, which is one reason i'd like to get better ram also running two sticks instead of 4.

My question is do i have to manually set all the tricky confusing timing to run at 2133 or 1866 or even 1600? I know that 2133 isn't gonna make it magically faster but, the head room for OCing is what i was thinking of. I plan on keeping my Core 2 machine for some time.
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7/11/12 at 5:33am
tou will have to set the timings manually i beleive but its not hard, as for overclocking yea they will help just set them at 1600 and when you up the fsb the ram will increase aswell but you know your limit is 2133 and maybe further
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7/11/12 at 5:51am
Wow dude don't waste your money on high speed RAM on 775 platform..

I had P5QC (DDR2 + DDR3 support) and my memory bandwidth was greater w/ RAM @ 1224MHz CL7. 453MHz FSB than RAM @ 1600MHz CL9 400MHz FSB..

775 platform benefits more from higher FSB than of higher RAM speed..

And great chance are that you wouldn't be able to hit speed over 1600Mhz on 775 anyways as it has poor memory controler..

Also if you're planning on getting faster RAM then get something like 1600MHz CL9 HyperX Blu 4GB sticks, I have my overclocked @ 2133MHz 10-11-10-30 with standard 1.65V..

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7/11/12 at 12:46pm
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7/11/12 at 4:47pm
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As far as wasting money if gonna spend 50-60 bucks on ram i figured i would get 2133, at the least i could pair it with my 1100T and take my 1600 and put that on the 775.

Any chance i could ask you guys to elaborate on the 30nm ram?
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7/11/12 at 5:02pm
Here is a huge thread on the samsung ram. From what I have gathered, they clock fairly well with kind of loose timings. Typical speeds would 2200-2400 and upto 2600. I don't think i've read much about how they do at lower frequency with tighter timings. On a 775 rig it's going to be difficult to get them to run very fast, but you'll have more ram.

IMO, they are a good budget solution for hardware that can push ram in excess of 2ghz easily. Platforms such as ivy bridge, sb-e, and even sb. Mabye bulldozer and llano too.

On 775 I like keeping timings as tight as possible and I try to push the frequency, although it doesn't go very far. Something like 7-7-7 1600-1800mhz. I've tried 2ghz, but it takes a bit more effort. Thats using a P5Q3. I have a P5K3 that is a bit lacking in the memory dividers and requires more FSB to push the ram.

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http://www.overclock.net/t/1210482/samsung-2x4gb-low-voltage-ddr3-1600-kit-ocing-to-2400-discussion
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7/11/12 at 10:50pm
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i wonder with higher frequency ram if i can tighter timings at lower frequency, like 2133 @1600 with lower timings?
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7/12/12 at 12:59am
You should be able to but it's all trial and error I have some hypers that are 2200 at 888 but have them set at 666 at 1600
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7/12/12 at 1:10am
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I own the Samsungs, got 'em from MicroCenter when that $10 off coupon was still around. 8GB of 1600MHz and some of the best ram I've owned to date.
Also had the Snipers at one point too ($50 right now I thin:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231519)

The Snipers were good out of the box, not much to play with though. Samsungs were just fun as heck to overclock. Only ran them at 2133, i don't remember the timings but higher frequency gave me better overall performance so I just left it at that. Pretty sure I could have pushed them more but that's for my next rig...
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