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Super stoked for this movie!

I'm currently indifferent to the 48 fps deal, I need to see a clip of it first.
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post #12 of 186
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrimpykins View Post

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Director Peter Jackson debuted ten minutes of footage from his upcoming "Lord Of The Rings" prequel, "The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey," at CinemaCon in Las Vegas on Tuesday, and the number of negative reactions was startling.
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Slightly older article but, apparently it has the same effect as watching cable TV on a 120hz. It looks like you are on the set watching them film it.
IMO this is NOT a good thing and I personally am not shocked at the reactions of those who saw the footage, I would probably feel the same because I know how I feel about 120hz television.
I want my movies to feel like MOVIES, not like I am on the set watching them film it.

I absolutely agree. Sports look good at 120Hz... movies/regular television look terrible at anything more than the standard 24 fps.
Quote:
Originally Posted by royo View Post

If Peter Jackson wouldn't have mentioned this was getting filmed in 48 FPS, maybe 20% would have noticed and complained about it.

100% disagree. I don't think it would have been everyone that noticed it, but a decent amount would be talking about why it "looked so weird and awkward" after.
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Originally Posted by Aesir View Post

Huh.. It looks too good so people are upset with it? Some of these people must have also liked 480p over 1080p or perhaps they like 480i better than all available formats. How can a camera make real life look more real than what is real I think that some of those critics were confused and went in to hate something they don't understand. I plan to get a 120Hz monitor in like a year, but I'm still rocking ~8 year old 19" monitors and some of my friend's displays and even the one on my laptop just blow me away at how much LCD tech has improved.
Watching Blu-ray's (one of those emulated 240Hz tv's) was one of the best things I've seen for home entertainment, I can actually tell what's happening in the movie now and motion doesn't hurt my eyes watching tons of grainy blur flash across the screen, move forward.

It doesn't look "too good." It stops looking like a film and starts looking like a soap opera.



The advantage of doing it at 48 fps is that we can easily cut it to half the frames and enjoy the movie at the regular rate.
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to anyone who has a 120hz or 240hz TV - make sure you have the feature "auto motion plus" or "clear motion" turned off in your picture settings if you don't like it.

what this feature does: it adds frame interpolation - adding additional frames that are not there, to bump your 120hz TV to a "fake" 240, and your 240hz tv to a "fake" 480. This is what gives you the "soap opera effect" not the NATIVE 120 or 240hz panel... /facedesk

most tv's have this turned on by default
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I don't know how I feel about this. On one hand, I don't like how a lot of modern TV's that advertise 120/240hz have that "soap opera" feel to them were things seem to move oddly. On the other hard, I don't want to be some old person stuck in the past like people who hang onto vinyl and tube guitar amps. Current technology is better, but it just might not "feel" that way because of nostalgia and expected experience. How would a generation of kids feel who never saw 24hz film? 24hz would like look watching a jumpy slideshow and feel akwark to them.

Did motion picture ruin the integrity of pictures? Did sound ruin the itegrity of silent films? Did color ruin the integrity of black and white? I could go on.

That uncanny valley arguement is innteresting though. I was thinking about that exact comparison when I opened this thread.
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It's not the same, when you play a game, you want the most fps so the game become more fluid. When you watch a movie, it's not the same. 24p for movies are there for a reason
Last 3 3D movie I saw I found that there wasn't enough FPS's.
It was fluid enough. 48 FPS is perfect.
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Will this movie also be available in 24fps?
    
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Honestly what this sounds like to me is console gamers who say 30FPS is more cinematic then 60FPS.

I think I'll love it.
    
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The advantage of doing it at 48 fps is that we can easily cut it to half the frames and enjoy the movie at the regular rate.

Only one problem with this. Those 24 frames every second have half the exposure time and therefore the "blur" we are so accustomed to seeing in movies still won't be there and it will still look much more like a soap opera than a movie. Or at least I think that would be the case.

Regardless, those who say the difference between 60hz and 120hz on cable TV isn't there must have some messed up eyes. I can't NOT notice it, even when I forced myself to use 120hz to try and get used to it, it's just NOT the same. Regardless of frame interpolation.

I'll say it again, I want to feel like I am in Middle Earth, not sitting behind a camera pointed at a set of Middle Earth. The one thing that has me worried is all the reviews complain about the movie sets looking obviously like sets and not like they are real.
 
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Originally Posted by ryboto View Post

My parents tv was setup the same way by default...changed it when I was visiting. Drove me crazy.

i was watching gamne of thrones in a 120hz sony tv, it sucked, motion interpolation my ass
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lol im looking forward to it.... ppl are just upset because its change..
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