[PA] Halo 4: Forward Until Dawn Trailer Blows Our Minds - Page 14

IMO Reach was the best Halo. The story may not have been that impressive (though I did think it was good, I've only played the shooters so take that for what it's worth), but in all other respects I think it's a fantastic game. CE would have been better in my books were it no so repetitive... honestly, CE did just about everything else right but then it committed that one cardinal sin.

But oh well. Now where was I again? Oh yes, Reach... I will highly recommend it for its gameplay, if you can get it cheap and you liked other Halos (or should I spell it Haloes? the e just makes it look very religious to me) for the gameplay rather than story it'll be worth it.

How does that even remotely follow Halo 1's story line? Chief is that last Spartan left, so Linda being saved is not ok. On top of that, he was a Spartan IV, not II or even III. Halo 1 begins with you being awoken from cryo-stasis. You don't get put under cryo sleep just for a day or two.

I have read the book, but forgot most of it. Do they just happen to come across the Halo Ring? If so, then the entire first level of Halo 1 is scrapped then. No wonder why they threw away the book's lore, the game makes MUCH more sense.
Edited by Dranx - 7/18/12 at 1:01am

I'm... confused why you quoted me, lol. I know all of that.

Halo Reach is cannon. Not the book. Fact fact fact fact. Just because you don't want it to be doesn't mean it isn't.

Looks like you need to reread it because all of the information you presented is false.

All of the books are Canon, Bungie knew the were contradicting it when they made the game. They tried their best to stick to it as much as possible. They consider the game Prime Canon which upset many fans.

You had stated that you never understood while people hated the game, so I was pointing it out.
Edited by BeerPowered - 7/18/12 at 2:11pm

Most of the people that I know who dislike the game don't dislike it because of the story. They dislike it because of how inconsistent the multiplayer is, and how out of place bloom is in a Halo game.

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We will see how good it is when it airs 10-5-12. Kinda skeptical.

My feelings are that this feels like a half-baked Transformers movie knockoff with less attractive female protagonists and less budget and/or fewer cares given. It feels like a movie trailer, and a bad one at that.

You are right about everything in this post except for one thing - Noble Team are not SPARTAN-IIIs, they are SPARTAN-IIs. They are part of the Master Chief's intake into the SPARTAN program. The chronology goes like this:

SPARTAN program - experiments, trials and tests on children are conducted to attempt enhancement of muscle strength, bone density and neurocognital function. Largely unsuccessful, it is regarded a failure as no soldiers are produced. However, Dr Halsey learns a great deal and convinces ONI to let her make adjustments and launch a second phase of the program.

SPARTAN-II phase - Dr Halsey had worked out most of the bugs and the new experiments had a hugely increased success rate, however not 100%. This phase of the program was the first to produce actual soldiers with augmentation. Master Chief, Linda, Fred etc were part of this phase. The SPARTAN-II soldiers were integrated into the UNSC, secretly at first, and then publicly. The SPARTAN-IIs use MJOLNIR armor, the latest model of which is MJOLNIR-VI, which was issued at the start of Halo 2.

SPARTAN-III phase - Sometime between the events of Halo 2 and 3 (I could be wrong on this timing - someone please correct me if I am) Kurt (a SPARTAN-II) is made out to have been killed in a mission by ONI. His military record lists him as MIA (as SPARTAN soldiers can not be listed as KIA), and he is secretly taken away to Onyx to help train the SPRTAN-III group. This group is headed by Colonel Ackerson, NOT Dr Halsey. The speed, strength and cognitive augmentations of these soldiers is not as severe or as advanced as the SPARTAN-II group, and also have side effects of increased aggression and reduced reliability in battle. They are smaller, slower and not as strong as SPARTAN-IIs. As a result, SPARTAN-III soldiers are incapable of using MJOLNIR armor, as their bodies have not been sufficiently strengthened to handle it. They would be crushed to death in MJOLNIR. Instead, they use form-fitting battle armor with active camouflage and a different helmet to that of MJOLNIR. They are trained in secret and not the public, nor the rest of the military are even aware of their existence. All of their military deployment occurs in isolated areas and they do not interact with other branches of the military.

Hence - the Noble Team seen in Halo: Reach are SPARTAN-II soldiers because they use MJOLNIR and are deployed with other branches like ODSTs etc.

Big Halo nerd here.

(edited for typos)
Edited by Captain Lolburger - 7/18/12 at 11:16pm