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post #81 of 102
7/16/12 at 12:07pm
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It would be lost within a few hundred years.

When people find artefacts, they weren't aware they were there. Getting lost isn't the concern, as the whole point of it would be finding it later
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post #82 of 102
7/16/12 at 12:50pm
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Code is usually plain-text though, changing the language would force almost any compiler to no longer be able to compile the code. For a lot of open-source software it is important that the code compile for everyone, so a consistent use of the language syntax (including keywords), is paramount. If you're using proprietary software, it's less important what language it's in.

You can have a code in English based programming language and Chinese based programming language which in the end translates into the same machine code. All you need is to have a compiler (which is just a translator changing your high end script into something a machine can actually execute) which can compile that code for the particular platform. So in this sense it does not matter at all on what language the high level programming language is based.

The hierarchy is something on the lines of machine code (hex/binary) < assembler (very low level languages) < high level languages (basic, pascal, C, fortran, etc) < scripting languages (python, etc) moving away from a machine towards human languages.
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7/16/12 at 12:51pm
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well thats annoying. but I think a visual aid must exist for this. If we look back at all the history of the earth and human civilizations, we can learn from what was Done then, to decide what Obviously wont work, and what WOULD work.

Might have to do something other than Polaroids then lol

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post #84 of 102
7/16/12 at 1:07pm
What is the point of a million year hard drive? Civilization will come to an end as we know it in just a few years just on the basis of economic debt. Everyone works so hard for so little while those in power continue to bleed every economic vein empty. We will be bartering goods and services before you know it. Not even gold or silver will have an intrinsic value in the future. Only tangible materials useful in everyday life will be of any matter.

Besides, all the information we have now is constantly changed to meet political will of what is of merit at the time being for profit.
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post #85 of 102
7/17/12 at 7:04am
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What is the point of a million year hard drive?

Read the article.

This is about marking nuclear waste for the future.
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post #86 of 102
7/23/12 at 10:05pm
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What is the point of a million year hard drive? Civilization will come to an end as we know it in just a few years just on the basis of economic debt. Everyone works so hard for so little while those in power continue to bleed every economic vein empty. We will be bartering goods and services before you know it. Not even gold or silver will have an intrinsic value in the future. Only tangible materials useful in everyday life will be of any matter.
Besides, all the information we have now is constantly changed to meet political will of what is of merit at the time being for profit.

Some pain and economic hardship is not "the end of the civilization as we know it" - even if it might be seeing like it when it hurts. Depending on your definition of civilization ofc wink.gif Civilizations have endured far worse inflationary periods than the current one. Human nature has remained relatively similar over the past few millenia and as usual people are happy to screw each other over the minor gains or just bcos they can.

We propably should put a note about that on this disk, just in case the ones diggin it up are some goodygoody types although I doubt it. Evolution seems to prefer at least some aggressiveness in species as if you are not that good at maintaining your ecological niche/territory/resources you usually die out.
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7/23/12 at 10:52pm
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What is the point of a million year hard drive? Civilization will come to an end as we know it in just a few years just on the basis of economic debt. Everyone works so hard for so little while those in power continue to bleed every economic vein empty. We will be bartering goods and services before you know it. Not even gold or silver will have an intrinsic value in the future. Only tangible materials useful in everyday life will be of any matter.

Besides, all the information we have now is constantly changed to meet political will of what is of merit at the time being for profit.
If you think that about today, just imagine what people in the Great Depression were thinking. I mean just look up recipes from that era, then walk outside and see what seems like every single person holding a cell phone.
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7/23/12 at 10:58pm
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plus they'll be drastically more intelligent/evolved

I only see more and more of the opposite recently.
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7/24/12 at 8:48am
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I only see more and more of the opposite recently.

It's worth pointing out that every generation always seems to think this about the one that comes after it.
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7/24/12 at 8:52am
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I only see more and more of the opposite recently.

It's worth pointing out that every generation always seems to think this about the one that comes after it.

Yes but I believe there are numbers out there to back this one up. Less degrees being earned for things like Science, and Math. Higher dropout rates, poor funding in education, etc. At least in the U.S. this is the case, not sure if it's happening on average worldwide.
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