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I don't know if I've ever seen any block on any card that makes direct contact to any parts on them. As a quick guess I'd assume that there must be a medium for heat transfer to take place otherwise chips and such would burn out under stress I would believe. That's just an uneducated guess though so don't take my word for it, but I don't think I'm far off the track.

For sure there needs to be some medium! The role of the TIM is to fill the tiny microscopic gaps on the surface of the heat sink and chip so that no air gets trapped between them since air is a terrible heat conductor. Having said that, the best TIM's have thermal conductivities far below that of the heat sink itself so that is why it's important to use only a VERY THIN LAYER since the rate of heat conduction is worse through the TIM than through the chip and sink. The thicker the TIM layer the higher will be the temperature difference between the chip and the sink and the sink. Thermal pads have a thermal conductivity similar to TIM (maybe not the really good TIM's) but they are considerably thicker which is why I was hoping to do away with them. What I meant with direct contact was that the block/sink should touch the RAM and VRM's so that only a thin layer of TIM would be needed between them and so increasing the effectiveness of the cooling system wink.gif
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subbed because this is very interesting. post a request for someone to measure over in the water cooling forum, more chance of visibility and then you can keep us updated on your progress biggrin.gif

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subbed because this is very interesting. post a request for someone to measure over in the water cooling forum, more chance of visibility and then you can keep us updated on your progress biggrin.gif
and welcome to OCN.

Thanks man, I'll try that!
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Part of the reason no ones volunteered is both the time requirement, and that many are selling waterblocks, so to give away a design is a bit... well... silly.
Be gentle with thermal pads,
Watch out more for the things that stick up as well as the things you need to cool!
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why don't you just buy a water block? You can't go cheap with that sort of thing. Won't help you in the long run
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Part of the reason no ones volunteered is both the time requirement, and that many are selling waterblocks, so to give away a design is a bit... well... silly.
Be gentle with thermal pads,
Watch out more for the things that stick up as well as the things you need to cool!

Yeah I know I need to watch out for the other components that stick out, I managed to ge some PCB models on sketchup but none has the VRM heights, RAM and GPU are there at 1mm and 0.5 mm respectively although I would like some confirmation on that
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why don't you just buy a water block? You can't go cheap with that sort of thing. Won't help you in the long run

Going cheap is more of a welcome side effect of trying to build my own, the real reason is that I want to make something based on what i think should be effective and compare it's performance to retail blocks. Just because I can! Why else would i join OCN?
post #17 of 22
have you thought of the "transfer chambers" deign yet?

what kind of tolerance doe your friend 5-axis machine have?

materia?
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have you thought of the "transfer chambers" deign yet?
what kind of tolerance doe your friend 5-axis machine have?
materia?
If by "transfer chambers" you mean the top of the block where the water actually flows then yes I have a few ideas that i will sketch up and run some simulations on soon as I have the measurements for the base. I'll probably try and do some finite element modeling to refine the final product before prototyping. Material will be copper. As for the machine's tolerances I'm not sure about hard numbers I;ll find out from my friend but I'm guessing it's quite tight because everyone is raving about this machine, it was recently aqcuired for prototyping designs for the mechanical engineering faculty so hopefully it does not dissapoint. I'm guessing accuracy will be sub 100um at least, probably a bit better.
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there are awesome block designs by a few modders @ bittech
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there are awesome block designs by a few modders @ bittech

I'll be sure to go have a look over there and steal some ideas;)
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