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post #41 of 46
8/3/12 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by reggiesanchez View Post

There will be no benefit from running a card at 1.7v that can't get colder than -50 specially a g92 I'm surprised it can take 1.65

what would be best/better temp to run at? I mean, assuming no CB, is say -100 ok or is it actually necessary/beneficial to go even lower? I guess what im really wondering is does g92 continue to scale with the cold all the way down to full pot temps
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post #42 of 46
8/3/12 at 8:53am
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If there's no CB, it's just easier to run full pot. Most cards will continue to scale with voltage/cold, though.
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post #43 of 46
8/3/12 at 9:02am
i see, good to know. but your card has cb, right? which is what youre trying to find a fix for, among other things..yes?
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post #44 of 46
8/3/12 at 10:04am
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As far as I can see, every 9800GTX/9800GTX+ has a -50°C CB.... like right on the dot. This is leading me to believe that it's a bypassable limitation.
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post #45 of 46
8/3/12 at 12:47pm
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As far as I can see, every 9800GTX/9800GTX+ has a -50°C CB.... like right on the dot. This is leading me to believe that it's a bypassable limitation.
hmm.. unfortunately the KPC forums dont move along very fast so it could be a good while before you get a final solution.. its good tin replied today thumb.gif
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post #46 of 46
8/3/12 at 1:54pm
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I sent him a PM with a link biggrin.gif
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