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i5 3570k or i7 3770k for a new gaming build?

post #1 of 11
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I am building my first gaming comp and can use some help. I have a budget of 2000-2200 dollars. First i will be playing games like wow, skyrim , bf3 , the new black ops and the new hitman when they come out. Now if that was all then the choice was easy id just go with the i5 but i also want to fraps and live stream my gaming. Is there going to be a significant difference between the 2 cpus when it comes to me streaming my games. Will it be worth the extra 100 dollars when i need other stuff too.

I also need everything from case to monitor and keyboard, i basically only have a mouse now.

Besides gaming i want to be able to overclock. i have never overclocked before so i would like a motherboard that makes overclocking simple hopefully and i obviously would need a cooling system. I was thinking the silver arrow or dh-14 , but would be willing to go with water cooling if you guys think it is needed to get around 4.5ghz. thanks for your time and info.
post #2 of 11
You should easily be able to hit 4.5GHz on either.

For a GAME machine, the 3570k is all you are really going to need. Going to the i7 version really won't net you all that much for the extra $110. If you plan on doing other things than just game, like photo editing or CAD work or video editing, then maybe the i7 is a better choice.

Otherwise, you might just want to put the $110 you'd save by going with the 3570k into a better video card.

But me, I love the i7, "just in case" I need it later. To me the $110 isn't all that much, and I'd still just get the best video card possible. wink.gif

My 2 cents.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
thanks for fast reply noow let me ask you or anyone else reading this what motherboard and cooling system should i use for the over clocking?
post #4 of 11
might as well stick with the sb 2500k for gaming. they have similar performance when ocd
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Centhern View Post

thanks for fast reply noow let me ask you or anyone else reading this what motherboard and cooling system should i use for the over clocking?

personally, i think the 3570K and the sabertooth Z77 board is a perfect combo. overclocks well from what i have seen and has a 5 year warranty in case you feel "nostalgic" down the road and get into modding. for cooling, i would say the Corsair H80 or H100 but thats only because i HATE big bulky air coolers. im only using one because i cant get an H series cooler to fit in my HAF 912 properly.

if you could provide a list of components you are looking at, that would be great thumb.gif
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 4100 @ 4.6 1.4v Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 XFX AMD Radeon 6870 DD Corsair Vengeance 8 GB 1600 (LP wht) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 160 SATA II Seagate 250 GB Notebook SATA II ASUS BD ROM Cooler Master V6 GT 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Cooler Master 200mm fans x2 Win 7 Ult Acer X223W 22" 1680x1050 MS Sidewinder X4 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair TX750 V.2 Cooler Master HAF 912 Cyborg R.A.T. 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K MSI Z77IA-E53 M-ITX XFX HD6870 DD Corsair Vengeance Low Profile White 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Corsair H60 (2013 Edition) Corsair SP120 High Performance Windows 7 ult 64bit Silverstone ST55F-G 
CaseAudioOther
Fractal Design Node 304 Logitech z623 Silverstone PP05 Short Cables 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 4100 @ 4.6 1.4v Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 XFX AMD Radeon 6870 DD Corsair Vengeance 8 GB 1600 (LP wht) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 160 SATA II Seagate 250 GB Notebook SATA II ASUS BD ROM Cooler Master V6 GT 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Cooler Master 200mm fans x2 Win 7 Ult Acer X223W 22" 1680x1050 MS Sidewinder X4 
PowerCaseMouse
Corsair TX750 V.2 Cooler Master HAF 912 Cyborg R.A.T. 5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K MSI Z77IA-E53 M-ITX XFX HD6870 DD Corsair Vengeance Low Profile White 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
Corsair H60 (2013 Edition) Corsair SP120 High Performance Windows 7 ult 64bit Silverstone ST55F-G 
CaseAudioOther
Fractal Design Node 304 Logitech z623 Silverstone PP05 Short Cables 
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post #6 of 11
First and foremost what your wallet can afford.

secondly, ask yourself will you be upgrading multiple times with this chip.

thirdly, what kind of video cards will you probably have in the future.

From the sounds of it here is a build i would consider....

Asus Republic of Gamers motherboard (can't go wrong)
i7 3770k (gives room for growth)
H100 corsair cooler (make sure you get a case that works with it) NZXT switch 810 is a good one // replace stock fans for Cougar vortex PWM fans ((these are sooooooooo much better than stock))
gtx 680 or 670 video card
and some decent ram 1866 (about 8gbs)
get a 850 corsair PSU


and BOOM you have a good gaming system for the next few years

However, there might be room to go extreme wink.gif
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
ok so here is how it is looking so far. This is just what i been thinking from a what you guys said and a few other post i been reading. I want to make sure i can overclock it. Also there will be a few items that i have a couple of optuions on bc these are the ones i cant really decide on. Lastly i think after talking to my wife will be getting a custom wc loop bye november b4 the new hitman comes out so in the mean time i think im just going to go with an air cooler. This is also my first build. Well it will be my 2nd actually bc i have my wifes stuff in the mail to build her a world of warcraft internet comp. Plz feel free to tweak and adjust what i have i only ask that you give a brief explaintion why so that i can learn for my self too. ty



[1] the monitor someone suggestion this one and i think it looks great for the money
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222

[2nd] the cd drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136247

[3nd] keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114011

[4th] the video card ( now i was going to get a 670 but i got confused on what 670s were able to be overclocked and not heat up i heard good things about gigabyte but they were out of them and i didnt reall understand why there were so many different 670's all from evga and what the differences were so i just went with the 680 bc someone said the gigabyte had good air cooling)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125422
im not against going back to 670 if you guys think my system will be able to play black ops abd hit man on ultra with it and can tell me a good one


[5th] ram, i went with a low profile so i can use a big air cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550

[6th and 7th] this is a combo deal for a case and power supply but i have 2 options here and i cant decide if the one is worth it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.994507
another option i was thinking is a mid tower but not sure it will fit a giant air cooler in it with good enough air flow. i am really concered about over heating my stuff
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.994454
yet another option is the cm storm and a powers supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171057
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119245
Lastly (im sorry about this i just want to make sure i make the most out or my money bc wife doesnt let me have it often (lol) and im worried about air flow) This last one is a beast but you pay for it too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.995406


[8th and 9th] Cpu and mother bored. Now depending on what other choices we all made here i can get a few options like an
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.984320
but i have no idea what motherboard to get to be honest. Someone earlier in this thread said the asus sabertooth other people said the rog i can also go with the i5 if you guys think it doesnt matter than much for streaming my games.

[10th] I want a ssd drive around 256g not sure if there is a speed difference between like the
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-138

For those who read it all thanks i suck at posting too.
Edited by Centhern - 7/13/12 at 5:00pm
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
Looking at that nzxt switch case and it looks pretty good too. How is its airflow?
post #9 of 11
I had an Antec 1200v3 and it was considered top tier for its class. The switch 810 is far better... i dropped like 3 degrees on cpu and gpus.
post #10 of 11
I personally am in love with my z77x-ud5h by Gigabyte, love the build quality, OCs very well, the power management is spot on and with the added moisture protection design (added glass fabric PCB in addition to the 2x copper PCB, it'll holdup well under LN2 or high Humidity environments.

This thing is rock solid, seems you can smack someone over the head with it and it would be fine lol
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