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With this kind of performance i'm just wondering what we'll see from the 8000 series. I think the radeons is running hotter because of the much more compute power it's got build in it! wink.gif
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All three reviews seem a bit like paid as they very carefully avoid mentioning the issues raising from the display output selection (first one, "you can use at least three screens for gaming" while not mentioning that you cant really use more than three 1600p even if you want to) to the point of giving out outright misinformation (last one, "using MST hubs or daisy chaining DP monitors allows for up to 6 screens" overlooking the fact that neither of these options is available in reality and that even if it would be available even DP 1.2 does not have enough bandwidth to run 3x1600p off a single DP port unless you start dropping refresh rates to unnaturally low levels or give up significant amount of color depth.)
So by the sound of it the reviewers are not up to the task or are trying way too hard to please Sapphire to the point of just repeating the marketing talk without checking up if the advertised features are actually available in today's reality.

I wonder if Sapphire was betting on the mythical MST Hub that is vaporware. Here is some interesting information on that front:

http://www.wsgf.org/node/21862

I wonder if it having two Displayport's if you could run two MST Hubs at the same time. Not entirely positive, but it looks like DP 1.2 with a MST Hub should just be able to run two 1080P monitors at 120 Hz. It all comes down to the MST Hubs with this card fro proper Eyefinity. But then again, the 89xx series may very well be out before we see those.
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With 6GB of GDDR5 memory onboard we maxed the settings out to the limit, including enabling 8 times anti Aliasing. At these settings, the game demanded 4624MB of memory.
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Except that 8x MSAA is pretty much pointless. wink.gif
    
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I wonder if Sapphire was betting on the mythical MST Hub that is vaporware. Here is some interesting information on that front:
http://www.wsgf.org/node/21862
I wonder if it having two Displayport's if you could run two MST Hubs at the same time. Not entirely positive, but it looks like DP 1.2 with a MST Hub should just be able to run two 1080P monitors at 120 Hz. It all comes down to the MST Hubs with this card fro proper Eyefinity. But then again, the 89xx series may very well be out before we see those.
Except that 8x MSAA is pretty much pointless. wink.gif

AMD has been betting on these HUB's since 2010 when they released 6xxx series but apparently there is some technical problems with these. The first models were scrapped bcos of somekind of hardware bug which meant that the hubs were not able to work with hot plugging and you had to connect displays in very specific order for them to work. Last CES had still the similar prototypes shown that remain to go properly through miniaturization and I have seen claims that these hubs should at last release 2012 "summer" but tbh I will not hold my breath over it.

If you read the AMD blog they are linking in that thread then the last comment in there from the 2nd July is from me lamenting about the hub remaining vaporware and suggesting them to do next series just with display ports.

As far as bandwidth goes DP 1.2 is 17.28 Gbit/s on 2m cable and 1920 × 1080 × 24 bpp @ 60 Hz (that is 6 bit color) is as low as 3.33 Gbit/s (without the overhead needed for CRT, i.e., on LCD screen) so you can indeed drive two of these @ 120 Hz through DP 1.2. At higer resolutions you can do 2560 × 1600 × 30 bpp @ 60 Hz which is 8.06 Gbit/s, i.e., 2 screens per displayport, or you can do one @120Hz on 2m cable. You can even do 3840 × 2160 × 30 bpp @ 60 Hz (thats 4k) which is about 16 Gbit/s.

DP 1.1a has half the bandwidth of DP 1.2 and does not support multi stream and daisy chaining. DP 1.2 standard was confirmed 2009 December and AMD jumped on bandwagon shortly thereafter with 6xxx series cards betting heavy on DP 1.2 displays and hubs being available soon after the series release.
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according to the kg review, mp3 is REALLY tough maxed.
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I was looking forward to these cards, but after seeing the mixed outputs for us Eyefinity users - there is no point. Bah, thanks Sapphire. mad.gif
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I was looking forward to these cards, but after seeing the mixed outputs for us Eyefinity users - there is no point. Bah, thanks Sapphire. mad.gif

Good thing Sapphire doesn't make airplanes...."The airplane has perfectly good landing gear, whattaya mean you need wings!!!"
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lol @ more power consumption than a 580
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lol @ more power consumption than a 580
and more fps 50%
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Honestly even if this card isn't good for eyefinity or sucks down a ton of juice it's still the fastest card out there and is pretty desirable in it's own right for that fact alone.
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Honestly even if this card isn't good for eyefinity or sucks down a ton of juice it's still the fastest card out there and is pretty desirable in it's own right for that fact alone.

But what advantages against just an OC'd 7970?
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