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But it doesn't improve image quality and usually has a large performance hit. Especially in high resolution Eyefinity. Since this card cannot run large Eyefinity setups, I'd wager 99% of people won't ever go over 3GB VRAM use.

It definitely improves IQ. The difference between 4XMSAA and 8X is almost imperceptible but it it does exist.

Regardless at this point in the game regular MSAA is kind of useless. You either have to be using a transparency msaa (AAA/TRAA) solution or a post-process (crap) solution to get rid of the shader aliasing in todays games and regular MSAA simply doesn't do it.

Or you can just boss it up like me and find a way to supersample everything you play because you find any jaggies super annoying.
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HOLY CRAP didn't see it before!!

Seems like Sapphire built a really ass-kicking card here! 1.28GHz on stock heatsink is O___O
   
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The 7970's handle higher resolutions better IMO. Of course though I am partial as NVIDIA cannot do 5x1.

This is why I settled on 7970, although I don't run insane resolutions like you. I am running at 2560x1440, but that extra GB and wider bus on the 7970 is what pulled ahead when compared to the GTX 680.
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does this comes with two dual link dvi or one dual link one single link?
every review gives different result regarding dvi
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A fancy upgrade from a 1Gb card.
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This is why I settled on 7970, although I don't run insane resolutions like you. I am running at 2560x1440, but that extra GB and wider bus on the 7970 is what pulled ahead when compared to the GTX 680.
That's not accurate...It depends on whic games you play. The 7970GHz and GTX 680 are neck and neck @ 2560x1600.
This review was done Aug 4th. Pay no mind to the lightning and DCii numbers. I pulled these for the reference GTX 680 vs 7970GHz benchmarks. thumb.gif











^ It all depends on which games you play.
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That's not accurate...It depends on whic games you play. The 7970GHz and GTX 680 are neck and neck @ 2560x1600.
This review was done Aug 4th. Pay no mind to the lightning and DCii numbers. I pulled these for the reference GTX 680 vs 7970GHz benchmarks. thumb.gif
^ It all depends on which games you play.


You are correct in that currently what games you play makes a difference between which card is better. The 7970 still pulls ahead for myself as I don't replace my video card every year, sometimes I might go as much as 3 years. Why this matters for myself is longevity, I already have seen situations of the GTX 680 stalling out on heavily modified games, because its lack of VRAM and memory bus at higher resolutions. Now if I were to wait for the GK110 cards to hit next year I am comfortable saying it wouldn't be an issue, Nvidia would be insane (they were with their current gen) to keep a 256-bit bus and 2GB. I am not going to wait another year, my GTX 470 has served me well but it is time for a new card.

The way I look at it is this; The 7970 and 680 are on par with each other, they are fantastic cards, and in unmodified gaming situations they trade blows, as they should. As soon as you start running modifications, ultra high resolution texture packs, etc, the 680 starts to fall behind. I am also concerned with future gaming and what having a 256-bit bus and only 2GB of memory is going to do in terms of limitations down the road. I honestly believe Nvidia chose the 256/2GB configuration to almost force high end users to upgrade in the next year or so when the newer generation games running the likes of Unreal Engine 4 come out. I see those people hitting a wall, I really do. Now it very well could be possible that we have a technology breakthrough that allows engines to render marvelous graphics with little strain, but I don't see that happening just yet.

So out of concern for longevity and what the future of gaming holds AMD's 384/3GB configuration wins. If the GTX 680 had the same configuration I might have gone that way, but the only other 680 option is the 4GB version and it just isn't worth the premium! Especially considering they kept the 256-bit bus.

EDIT: To highlight this we can look at the memory bandwidth of the two cards.

GTX 680: 192.2 GB/sec http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680/specifications/

AMD 7970 Ghz Edition: 288 GB/sec http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970ghz/Pages/radeon-7970GHz.aspx#3

A difference of 33.27%, in favor of AMD. I see this difference being a nice advantage in the next year or so.
Edited by PostalTwinkie - 8/12/12 at 1:42pm
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You are correct in that currently what games you play makes a difference between which card is better. The 7970 still pulls ahead for myself as I don't replace my video card every year, sometimes I might go as much as 3 years. Why this matters for myself is longevity, I already have seen situations of the GTX 680 stalling out on heavily modified games, because its lack of VRAM and memory bus at higher resolutions. Now if I were to wait for the GK110 cards to hit next year I am comfortable saying it wouldn't be an issue, Nvidia would be insane (they were with their current gen) to keep a 256-bit bus and 2GB. I am not going to wait another year, my GTX 470 has served me well but it is time for a new card.
The way I look at it is this; The 7970 and 680 are on par with each other, they are fantastic cards, and in unmodified gaming situations they trade blows, as they should. As soon as you start running modifications, ultra high resolution texture packs, etc, the 680 starts to fall behind. I am also concerned with future gaming and what having a 256-bit bus and only 2GB of memory is going to do in terms of limitations down the road. I honestly believe Nvidia chose the 256/2GB configuration to almost force high end users to upgrade in the next year or so when the newer generation games running the likes of Unreal Engine 4 come out. I see those people hitting a wall, I really do. Now it very well could be possible that we have a technology breakthrough that allows engines to render marvelous graphics with little strain, but I don't see that happening just yet.
So out of concern for longevity and what the future of gaming holds AMD's 384/3GB configuration wins. If the GTX 680 had the same configuration I might have gone that way, but the only other 680 option is the 4GB version and it just isn't worth the premium! Especially considering they kept the 256-bit bus.
EDIT: To highlight this we can look at the memory bandwidth of the two cards.
GTX 680: 192.2 GB/sec http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680/specifications/
AMD 7970 Ghz Edition: 288 GB/sec http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/7970ghz/Pages/radeon-7970GHz.aspx#3
A difference of 33.27%, in favor of AMD. I see this difference being a nice advantage in the next year or so.

Well said. If you are investing in a card for 2 -3 years the HD 7970 is simply the better choice. People will never understand such simple logic as future-proofing. The GTX 680 has been shown to be bandwidth constrained in titles like Metro 2033, Crysis Warhead. So why would a person who wants to keep the card for 2 - 3 years pick an already constrained card. As far as reviews are concerned most reviews clearly show that when you go for maximum settings at higher resolutions the HD 7970 Ghz clearly leads the GTX 680.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/54954-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-ghz-edition-review-15.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/54954-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-ghz-edition-review-16.html

At 1080p its a close contest. At higher resolutions its not. HD 7970 Ghz wins majority of the games and with signiifcant margins. Even titles like BF3 are shown to go sometimes to HD 7970 Ghz depending on the exact test scenario.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232-8.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/9.html
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-3GB-GHz-Edition-Review-Taking-GTX-680/Battlefield-3
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Seems pretty NICE! but like everyone else, no $'s
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Any word on the 7990 6GB?
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