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This is definitely one of the best boards to ever come out for us PC enthusiasts. thumb.gif

The question is, if I'm doing an X79 build for the first time (coming from an X58 platform), what is the "best", in terms of performance, RAM? I really like the Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM but they sell only in 8GB (2 x 4GB) or 16GB (4 x 4GB) packs. Those are running at 2400MHz which is pretty good but I think this board will support faster memory right?

Is it a good idea to get 4 16GB Dominator Platinum RAM running @ 2400Mhz? Anything better than that out there for the X79 platform?
     
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One of my email questions sent to Asrock got forwarded over to Taiwan to confirm and provide the answer. It was regarding the # of lanes available to users...or a round about way of asking if the LSI chip utilized 8 of the total 72 PCI lanes. Short answer is yes...the LSI utilizes some of the lanes, and that leaves 64 lanes available to users.

So....for those wanting this board to actually run quad SLI at 16x speeds on PCI-e 3.0? Well, you can do it, but you have zero lanes left for sound cards or raid cards, or other add-ons. The board/cpu natively provide 40 PCI lanes, and the 2 PLX chips each add another 16...so you end up with 72 total lanes. The LSI chip then utilizes 8 of these, leaving you 64 lanes. So quad SLI at 16x will utilize them all. If you plug in something else, you start dropping down to 8x for at least one of the cards.

Now I'm not saying that is a horrible thing. Just wanting to figure out what to expect from the board. May not even be an issue...because if you truly plug in 4 video cards, you've already utilized all the PCI slots anyway.
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i did not seem to see many people use x79 did it blow over when ivy came out?
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One of my email questions sent to Asrock got forwarded over to Taiwan to confirm and provide the answer. It was regarding the # of lanes available to users...or a round about way of asking if the LSI chip utilized 8 of the total 72 PCI lanes. Short answer is yes...the LSI utilizes some of the lanes, and that leaves 64 lanes available to users.
So....for those wanting this board to actually run quad SLI at 16x speeds on PCI-e 3.0? Well, you can do it, but you have zero lanes left for sound cards or raid cards, or other add-ons. The board/cpu natively provide 40 PCI lanes, and the 2 PLX chips each add another 16...so you end up with 72 total lanes. The LSI chip then utilizes 8 of these, leaving you 64 lanes. So quad SLI at 16x will utilize them all. If you plug in something else, you start dropping down to 8x for at least one of the cards.
Now I'm not saying that is a horrible thing. Just wanting to figure out what to expect from the board. May not even be an issue...because if you truly plug in 4 video cards, you've already utilized all the PCI slots anyway.

I think you are over complicating it. First two 16x slots go into one PLX that connects 1st native 16x lane to the CPU. Last two 16x slots go into one PLX that connects 2nd native 16x lane to the CPU. That uses up both 16x GPU lanes, or 32 lanes to the CPU. 8 lanes left over for the LSI chip. 40 CPU lanes total used.
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I think you are over complicating it. First two 16x slots go into one PLX that connects 1st native 16x lane to the CPU. Last two 16x slots go into one PLX that connects 2nd native 16x lane to the CPU. That uses up both 16x GPU lanes, or 32 lanes to the CPU. 8 lanes left over for the LSI chip. 40 CPU lanes total used.

Yeah, you're saying the same thing....but maybe clearer for some people. smile.gif The real question was how the LSI chip connected. Whether it took up 8 lanes or not. Answer....it does. Which makes it impossible to get 16x for 4 cards if you are going to use any other cards (usb, raid, recording, sound card, etc.)
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Yeah, you're saying the same thing....but maybe clearer for some people. smile.gif The real question was how the LSI chip connected. Whether it took up 8 lanes or not. Answer....it does. Which makes it impossible to get 16x for 4 cards if you are going to use any other cards (usb, raid, recording, sound card, etc.)

Ya, don't think most people that want 4- way GPU worry about that too much. It already has a decent sound chip (or just go USB DAC which is the best anyway IMO), don't need a raid card with the on board LSI chip, etc.
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One of my email questions sent to Asrock got forwarded over to Taiwan to confirm and provide the answer. It was regarding the # of lanes available to users...or a round about way of asking if the LSI chip utilized 8 of the total 72 PCI lanes. Short answer is yes...the LSI utilizes some of the lanes, and that leaves 64 lanes available to users.
So....for those wanting this board to actually run quad SLI at 16x speeds on PCI-e 3.0? Well, you can do it, but you have zero lanes left for sound cards or raid cards, or other add-ons. The board/cpu natively provide 40 PCI lanes, and the 2 PLX chips each add another 16...so you end up with 72 total lanes. The LSI chip then utilizes 8 of these, leaving you 64 lanes. So quad SLI at 16x will utilize them all. If you plug in something else, you start dropping down to 8x for at least one of the cards.
Now I'm not saying that is a horrible thing. Just wanting to figure out what to expect from the board. May not even be an issue...because if you truly plug in 4 video cards, you've already utilized all the PCI slots anyway.


Does not matter. No card comes close to maxing pcie x16 2.0 anyways, and most barely cramp pcie x8 2.0.


That said, you'd use their fancy onboard sound chip with that 3d sonar thingymajiggy. You shouldn't be adding in any excess cards anyways since this thing comes with the kitchen sink.
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Ya, don't think most people that want 4- way GPU worry about that too much. It already has a decent sound chip (or just go USB DAC which is the best anyway IMO), don't need a raid card with the on board LSI chip, etc.
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Does not matter. No card comes close to maxing pcie x16 2.0 anyways, and most barely cramp pcie x8 2.0.
That said, you'd use their fancy onboard sound chip with that 3d sonar thingymajiggy. You shouldn't be adding in any excess cards anyways since this thing comes with the kitchen sink.

Raid 5 and other parity raids are being used more and more as personal storage needs grow. And the LSI chip won't help with that, so some people will still need raid cards. And I read some reviews where the creative sound chip got real negative remarks. Sound cards are fairly common. I know that no one can build a board that does everything for everybody....I was just amazed I was still looking for more lanes after they added 2 PLX chips to the board.

But I'm with you on the fact that the extra bandwidth with PCI-e 3.0 probably isn't utilized with today's cards anyway. But it would be nice to know your covered for the super cards of tomorrow.

I'm still getting one of these boards though. thumb.gif
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Raid 5 and other parity raids are being used more and more as personal storage needs grow. And the LSI chip won't help with that, so some people will still need raid cards. And I read some reviews where the creative sound chip got real negative remarks. Sound cards are fairly common. I know that no one can build a board that does everything for everybody....I was just amazed I was still looking for more lanes after they added 2 PLX chips to the board.
But I'm with you on the fact that the extra bandwidth with PCI-e 3.0 probably isn't utilized with today's cards anyway. But it would be nice to know your covered for the super cards of tomorrow.
I'm still getting one of these boards though. thumb.gif


RAID 5 is a joke. If yer gonna drop 600 on a mb, you best drop another 1K on a proper card with a RAID 6 engine. hmm, it's ironic that even the top dog Areca ARC-1882-ix-24 uses only x8, so I'm wondering why all the fuss? headscratch.gif


Psst, I got an Areca 12 porter in my server, but it's a server! Doh.
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In a quad GPU config, using any of the other slots will knock every slot down to 8x, except the first one.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X79%20Extreme11/?cat=Specifications
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Does not matter. No card comes close to maxing pcie x16 2.0 anyways, and most barely cramp pcie x8 2.0.

Not true, especially in high end multi-GPU configs.
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