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That's nice, he must have made it right before it shut itself down. At least the board has VRM protection (throttling). I would not try to overclock a quad core to 5GHz on a board with 3+1 phases though. Take a look at this list and find a better board. That one is very cheap which is its attraction but for max performance you will have to cough up a little more dough. http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list . I'm not hatin' on ya, just don't want you to realize you shoulda invested in a better board later down the road.

I agree 100%..
For some reason I missed the part about the op trying to hit 5Ghz's....doh.gif
    
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That's nice, he must have made it right before it shut itself down. At least the board has VRM protection (throttling). I would not try to overclock a quad core to 5GHz on a board with 3+1 phases though. Take a look at this list and find a better board. That one is very cheap which is its attraction but for max performance you will have to cough up a little more dough. http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list . I'm not hatin' on ya, just don't want you to realize you shoulda invested in a better board later down the road.
It's fine man, I'm learning here lol this is my first build.
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I'd dump the H100 and put some of the money into a better mobo and some into a better gpu.
I can't see any mobo without heatsinks on the vrm's lasting very long.

The rest looks good 8/10
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I'd dump the H100 and put some of the money into a better mobo and some into a better gpu.
I can't see any mobo without heatsinks on the vrm's lasting very long.
The rest looks good 8/10
Alright, I'll use a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, but what GPU and what motherboard would you recommend?
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I think it looks pretty good, but I would tweak things a bit. You will either need to accept a more modest over clock or overhaul things. You did a fairly good job of picking parts for your first time though, so don't get discouraged!


As others have stated, taking that chip to 5ghz on that motherboard would be quite an accomplishment. The FX chips draw quite a bit of power, especially when overclocked. The VRMs on that board don't even have heat sinks. I would cut 50 bucks out of the case and put it towards a better motherboard. I rebuilt my box recently with an NZXT tempest and that case was not only cheap but really nice (though no grommets in the cable management holes if you can live without them). You wouldn't feel deprived on a 60 dollar case as long as it's the right 60 dollar case for you. You will want the better motherboard too, there is a huge difference between entry and mid level. You don't need to go crazy with the Asus ROG or similar, but you'll be happier with more motherboard and less case.


And the CPU itself. I have a friend who I helped build a box with that chip for. It's a good chip, much nicer than people give AMD credit for, but I don't know that you can take it to 5ghz on an H100. AMD specs list maximum temperature as 61C from what I can gather. To give you an idea, load temps on my I7-3820 with an H100 are around 60-62c (58-59 if I let the fans crank) and I'm running at 4.3ghz with only a smidge over stock voltage. I also have a pair of 38mm deep high speed Panaflo pans bolted to it and a pair of 25mm deep evercools on the other side, so Push/Pull at a minimum of 160cfm and high static pressure. Then again, my load temps are when I'm horsing the crap out of it. If you didn't load the cores fully, you might come in lower, but even still at 5ghz the H100 most likely isn't going to be able to keep up.


With Ivy Bridge, all of a sudden the core I5 got cheaper. For the same 200 you will spend on the FX-8150, you could get an I5. for 230 you can get an unlocked i5. Those can also run significantly hotter, although I would keep it within reason, however a chip that hits 70-75C during torture tests probably will not hit that during normal operation.


The other route you can go is to get a cheaper chip than the FX 8150. The beauty of an AMD platform is you've got a good chance of being able to upgrade your chip at a later point in time. A PHII BE 965 can be had for 110 bucks right now (also unlocked, so you can OC it, but you won't hit 5Ghz). Put the extra 90 bucks towards more graphics card, and games will fly. Upgrade to an 8150 later on in time, or wait for piledriver and get one of those chips.
post #16 of 20
How about a ASUS M5A88-V EVO instead? Good price and 8+1. (if ya don't mind openbox) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131733R
Or there is a nice promo going on at newegg on alot of gigabyte motherboards 10% off. I can say that my 970a-ud3 is really nice at its price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
Your build is looking good so far though.
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yeh..I'd get a good motherboard and a cheaper quad-core Deneb,Thuban, or Maybe one of those athlon II x 3s for now..and clock the snot out of them biggrin.gif
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yeh..I'd get a good motherboard and a cheaper quad-core Deneb,Thuban, or Maybe one of those athlon II x 3s for now..and clock the snot out of them biggrin.gif

Everything except bulldozer can take 70C temps too, so you can OC them more. Plus at ~50% the cost, you can clock it and plan on replacing it in two years if need be. If I hadn't wanted PCIE 3.0, I probably would have gotten either an FX or something PHII ish and just held out for piledriver (or even later). A mid level quad or triple core is all you really need. My Q9550@3.4ghz was still pretty sweet when my mobo died on me (not overclocking related either). I'd be lying if I said I didn't get a benefit from the upgrade, although that could also have been memory bandwidth related (I was still on DDR2 800 lol).


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How about a ASUS M5A88-V EVO instead? Good price and 8+1. (if ya don't mind openbox) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131733R
Or there is a nice promo going on at newegg on alot of gigabyte motherboards 10% off. I can say that my 970a-ud3 is really nice at its price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
Your build is looking good so far though.


I have yet to finish the build, but I've got an Asrock 970 Extreme3 mounted to case for a computer I'm building someone. It's an 80 dollar motherboard and a really nice piece of kit at the same time. It doesn't have SLI capability though and I think the 970 Extreme4 might have slightly better OC headroom (It's bigger, the extreme3 is small for these days). That's only 90 bucks. For 120 bucks you can get a 990FX chipset based board from Asrock as well. Asrock isn't dog turds any more either. They started out as budget Asus, but now they are their own company.
post #19 of 20
I should admit I am not up-to-date on the latest AMD chipsets, but assuming a 9xx series is better than 8xx's or 7xx's...

Well for a little more than the mobo you had picked is this one. Solid reviews.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280 $80

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754 $115

I think that leaves you with $45 or so to upgrade the gpu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125357 $190 but comes with a free Dirt3 video game.

Lots of GTX560 and 6870 and 6850 from $150-180

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Forgot to state that the 400r seems like a good case for a high overclock - lots of ventilation and fan mounts.
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