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A few of the newest HD7950s are shipping with reference HD7970 PCB designs.


This is a unique situation for the HD7950 because it has improved PCB with higher VRM power output design. These cards have 6+8 pin power connections and 8+8 and are compatible with all reference HD7970 water blocks.


I'm hoping that these cards will all eventually be able to be flashed to full HD7970 performance.

I have done some experimental flashing with my Sapphire HD7950 OC 950mhz edition to HD7970 but haven't had any success yet.


If you have a HD7950 that is using a reference HD7970 PCB please share over clocking abilities and photos.


Here is my card which is totally stable for gaming at 1300/1600 1.22v.





















With Swiftech MCW82 7900 gpu block.





HD7950 cards that have used reference HD7970 PCB.


1. VTX3D HD 7950 X-Edition V2 w/ 7970 PC
2. HIS ICEQ X2 Boost
3. MSI TF3
4. Sapphire 950mhz Edition
5. A795 Fire Hurricane
6. SAPPHIRE 100352-4L and Sapphire 21196-00-20G
6+6 power connector with 5+1 phase power design




How to flash HD7970 BIOS to HD7950.


Thanks to Condrutz85 from Xtremesystems.org for figuring this out. Will not unlock shaders but may have some other performance benefits. I just did this myself and it worked for my card.


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?284653-I-Finnaly-DiD-IT-MSI-7950-TF3-OC-V2-X-Flashed-with-7970-Bios-!!!&p=5164147&viewfull=1#post5164147


Condrutz85 instructions:
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1. Check your Device ID with GPU-Z.
In my case the device id was 1002-679A and the only bios from 7970 that matched my card was from HIS.

2. Now you have to go to the VGA Bios Archive ( http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...=&memSize=3072 ) and identify a bios that matches YOUR DEVICE ID!!!!!!
Be sure that the bios device id and your device id matches perfectly.

3. Download the bios(es) that matches BUT DO NOT FLASH IT YET!!!Before you go flashing 7970 bios like a maniac, please check that your card can take the matched bios.Check with an overclock software (MSI Afterburner ,Trixx ) that your card support the 7970 bios clock.

4. Make 2 BACKUP BIOSES, 1 with the SWITCH on 1 and SWITCH on 2. Do not forget to put bios switch on the 1st position before flashing. This will become in hand later.

5. Download atiflash latest version and extract it on a bootable stick, along with the bios you want to flash. ( Use hpboot stick and win98 system files, and make sure that atiflash.exe and your bios are on root or in the same folder ).

6. Boot into DOS and write "atiflash -f -p 0 yourbios.rom", where 0 is the number of the card conected on your pci-e.

7. After finishing flashing , restart. If it doesn`t boot follow the recovery procedure (Switch on 2 boot into dos, put switch on 1, flash original bios). If the 7970 bios doesn`t work choose other bios (remember same DEVICE ID).

8. After you boot into windows with 7970 bios, unninstall all drivers and all overclocking GPU utilities, RESTART!!!!! (IF you want to oveclock and change voltage, else would not work).

9. Install the latest Beta Catalyst, RESTART!!!

10. Install the Overcloking utilities.

11. ENJOY and Open a beer!

Edited by SonDa5 - 4/10/13 at 2:17am
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Here is the newest 950mhz Edition 7950 BIOS if somebody wants to try it out. I tried the new MSI TF3 HD7950 BIOS on my card and it was not as stable at 1300/1600.

SAPPER.zip 41k .zip file
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Here is the newest 950mhz Edition 7950 BIOS if somebody wants to try it out. I tried the new MSI TF3 HD7950 BIOS on my card and it was not as stable at 1300/1600.

SAPPER.zip 41k .zip file
Thanks for providing the bios, a Rep+ for that:thumb:
I've been looking for the 950 MHz version for ages, it's still not at TPU.

My card certainly doesn't have a 7970 pcb:D but it's doing well with the ref. 7950 pcb.

I wanted to get a Sapphire 950MHz 7950 when I bought mine a few months ago, but at the time they were about a hundred bucks more.
Of course they can be had on sale for about the same price now:rolleyes:
You've done quite a job with the cooling on that card. Nice to be able to run it at 1300/1600 all day!

I flashed mine with the "Sapper" bios yesterday. So far, it's working great, totally stable. I'm gradually testing it for stability, and any differences from the stock 7950 bios VisionTek uses.
Maximum clock testing will come soon, I could run 1200 with the stock bios and a voltage boost to 1.250, I wasn't pushing the ram much, at about 1450.

What I do find interesting, is that I can run it about 100MHz higher on stock voltage than I could before.
1000/1450 at stock voltage was fine with the original bios, anything much higher needed more juice.
It's now doing 1100/1450 with no increase in voltage, and I've done a fair bit of stress-testing and gaming with those clocks.
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Thanks for providing the bios, a Rep+ for that:thumb:

I flashed mine with the "Sapper" bios yesterday. So far, it's working great, totally stable. I'm gradually testing it for stability, and any differences from the stock 7950 bios VisionTek uses.
Maximum clock testing will come soon, I could run 1200 with the stock bios and a voltage boost to 1.250, I wasn't pushing the ram much, at about 1450.
What I do find interesting, is that I can run it about 100MHz higher on stock voltage than I could before.
1000/1450 at stock voltage was fine with the original bios, anything much higher needed more juice.
It's now doing 1100/1450 with no increase in voltage, and I've done a fair bit of stress-testing and gaming with those clocks.

Your welcome. Good to see the BIOS is working out for your card. I've tried many different HD7950 BIOS for my card and this newest Sapphire HD7950 950mhz edition BIOS is the most stable I have tried. Also it is very new from May of 2012. It isn't the same BIOS that was shipped with my card. I got this BIOS direct from Sapphire customer support after requesting the newest BIOS for my card.
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I have the TF3 7950 from Fry's and mine has the 7970 PCB biggrin.gif .
Should I flash my bios? Will it increase my performance better?
I'm stable at 1080/1575 core/memory clock at no voltage increase. Can get 1150/1700 at 1.1v and probably 1300 at 1.22 like you wink.gif but I don't have water cooling, so my temps will be in high 70's ...
Will flashing my bios to a new one help?
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I have the TF3 7950 from Fry's and mine has the 7970 PCB biggrin.gif .
Should I flash my bios? Will it increase my performance better?
I'm stable at 1080/1575 core/memory clock at no voltage increase. Can get 1150/1700 at 1.1v and probably 1300 at 1.22 like you wink.gif but I don't have water cooling, so my temps will be in high 70's ...
Will flashing my bios to a new one help?

I would only flash if you think you need it or just want to see if it helps. It may help out. My card didn't operate as stable with the new TF3 BIOS.


You may have a new TF3 BIOS on your card though. If you could please post screen shots and photos of your card. Also check to see the date of your BIOS to see how new yours is. GPU-Z verification also shares BIOS info.
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Some performance results under load.


Ambient temperature 23.6C

1300/1600 with under 1.2v.

1300mhztemps.jpg



Over 2 hours of looping Heaven. Stable.
Ambient Temp 25C.

swtcichtemps.gif

Can go faster.

First110003dmark11HD7950.jpg

http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3614346
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I would only flash if you think you need it or just want to see if it helps. It may help out. My card didn't operate as stable with the new TF3 BIOS.
You may have a new TF3 BIOS on your card though. If you could please post screen shots and photos of your card. Also check to see the date of your BIOS to see how new yours is. GPU-Z verification also shares BIOS info.
Maybe... Also I'm getting max 72C and 67C constant while playing BF3 on Ultra 1080p @ 1080/1575 at stock voltage... Should I reapply thermal paste or open it up and do something?
Thanks wink.gif .
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Are you water cooled?
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Maybe... Also I'm getting max 72C and 67C constant while playing BF3 on Ultra 1080p @ 1080/1575 at stock voltage... Should I reapply thermal paste or open it up and do something?
Thanks wink.gif .

My biggest concern is if the stock TF3 has the proper offset diamond for proper GPU contact. I would check to see if the TF3 heat sink has that. I've reads of HD7900 cards having over heating problems because they shipped with a flash surface heat sink that didn't make proper contact on gpu die.

I would run Furmark at stock card settings with HWinfo64 sensor readings going and monitor temps for about 15 minutes. If the gpu is in the 80s or the VRMs are clost to 120C I think the card doesn't have good enough stock cooling and you are going to be hitting the wall when over clocking because of weak heatsink and weak PCB heatsink. To hot.
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